Thoughts on 410 pistol snake guns like the Judge?

[Moltke]

Angry bagel, hahahaha.

[Doc Safari]

I kill more rattlers than I care to think about with 45acp rat shot...it is in the pipe & the rest of the mag is filled w/ 230gr for the two legged snakes.

Do not try to feed rat shot through an auto...rarely do you ever need more than 1 round.

I used to do that with a Glock 19, but found 9mm shotshells to often require more than one shot.

I also wonder: Glock says not to shoot lead bullets in their barrels because it deposits lead in the bore and leads to overpressure problems. Would lead shot leave deposits?

[Cincinnatus]

I used to do that with a Glock 19, but found 9mm shotshells to often require more than one shot.

I also wonder: Glock says not to shoot lead bullets in their barrels because it deposits lead in the bore and leads to overpressure problems. Would lead shot leave deposits?

Get a stormlake or other barrel and no worries with lead.
As for .410 snake-guns, I think MkMckinley was spot on, why not just carry a 12 gauge? You could have some slugs for distance shooting and shot for snakes.

[Doc Safari]

Get a stormlake or other barrel and no worries with lead.
As for .410 snake-guns, I think MkMckinley was spot on, why not just carry a 12 gauge? You could have some slugs for distance shooting and shot for snakes.

The point is to not have to carry another long gun in addition to the M4. Now if you're suggesting a 12 gauge handgun....

[Cincinnatus]

The point is to not have to carry another long gun in addition to the M4. Now if you're suggesting a 12 gauge handgun....

I meant instead of the M4, not in addition to. Sorry if I was unclear.

[Doc Safari]

I meant instead of the M4, not in addition to. Sorry if I was unclear.

Out on the ranch there is at least the possibility I will encounter a threat beyond handgun or shotgun ranges, so I have to have the M4 with me no matter what.

[Artos]

I used to do that with a Glock 19, but found 9mm shotshells to often require more than one shot.

I also wonder: Glock says not to shoot lead bullets in their barrels because it deposits lead in the bore and leads to overpressure problems. Would lead shot leave deposits?

i wouldn't worry about lead build up with as little as you are going to shoot it as it would have minimal outward pressure on the bbl. (heck, it could be steel shot for all I know)...and yes, the 45 is much better snake med over the 9.

I shoot low flying grackles at camp with mine.


If you are in deep woods and carry a 44mag, the 44spl ratshot is good too.

[halo2304]

If you are in deep woods and carry a 44mag, the 44spl ratshot is good too.

This. Carry a regular revolver with some ratshot loads for just in case.

[Devildawg2531]

[QUOTE=Doc Glockster;1350008]I have used snake shot shells in various pistol calibers, but they seem woefully inadequate, hence the desire for a "hand cannon" with a little more punch in the shot shell department.

I have to disagree with pistol snake shot shell's being woefully inadequate for killing a snake a close range. I have seen a stray male cat that kept raping my 2 cats get dropped permanently by 1 shot of 44 mag shot shell from about 6 yards from my S&W 629. It kept coming back for 6 months and trying to scare it away didn't work; planned on scaring it away with the shot shell and was surprised by the result.

Regarding snakes; I only kill poisonous snakes (copperhead's and rattlers are the only 2 I have encountered) on my property as I have young children but shot shell makes QUICK work of a snake at close range. For snakes I have used 12 guage (buck shot and bird shot), 44 mag shot shell, .40 cal, 44 mag HP's and a BB gun. All were extremely effective except the BB gun (BB gun took about 15 shot's on a copper head )

[5pins]

There is no comparison between the .45ACP and 9MM shot. The .45 is way better, the 9MM it’s even close. I also killed a feral cat with the .45ACP, one shot at about 10 feet was all it took. As far as feeding, I had one 1911 that would feed it fine and another that would not.