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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    Talon Arms has them cheaper than that right now on sale. Rainier Arms is close to PK's price too. There must be some volume discount or something that we don't know of.

    I would trust PK that if they say it is a Sabre barrel than it is. They are somewhat well know in the AR building circles and like all other companies that belong there have too much to lose by making fraudulent claims about their products for sale.

    Don't know. Maybe SD did a special run of barrels at a discounted price. The price in my price sheet don't line up though.

    Most likely these barrels are NOT HPT/MP tested. This would be one way to cut down on the cost.


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    Regarding sabre vs BCM, I have one of each on shooting guns.

    They shoot about the same, both very consistent, thus far reliable (bcm at about 2500 rounds, Sd at 3500-4000). Granted my sample size is small, but the BCM I have seems to have a slight edge on precision, but not that much to be noticeable.

    The Sabre barrels I have are all stamped like crazy, with twist, CMV, lot numbers... Pretty easy to ID.

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    The price quoted on PK's site is for a Sabre barrel with CMT upper according to the last I spoke to them. They are not assembled by Sabre. I was told that I could have a Sabre upper for an additional charge but it still isn't a factory assembled upper.

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    So does "factory assembled" make a difference? I know that Sabre only makes the barrell and upper receiver - the gas tube, handguards, etc are outsourced. So if they are genuine Sabre parts but not assembled by Sabre, will it matter?

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    According to that site a Sabre receiver is $30 extra.

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    While we're on the Sabre topic... do all Sabre uppers have the Sabre name lasered on them? In other words if you buy a sabre upper rec, it should say sabre on it, right?
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    There is some clever wording used to sell those uppers.

    My 0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by black_hawk8888 View Post
    So does "factory assembled" make a difference? I know that Sabre only makes the barrell and upper receiver - the gas tube, handguards, etc are outsourced. So if they are genuine Sabre parts but not assembled by Sabre, will it matter?

    Well it depends on who is doing the assembling.

    Quick story. Was talking to one of the SD guys about something and we got on the subject of dealers buying their barrels and then putting various uppers and BCG together and selling them as "SD uppers." SD gets a warranty call about a problem upper. So they have the guy send in his "SD upper." Come to find out, the upper was not assembled properly and only the poorest quality components were used.

    IMHO, I would only buy AR's built by certain dealers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    While we're on the Sabre topic... do all Sabre uppers have the Sabre name lasered on them? In other words if you buy a sabre upper rec, it should say sabre on it, right?
    Correct. The reason why that all came about is because of the story I posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulinski View Post
    There is some clever wording used to sell those uppers.

    My 0.02
    Yes there is. To be honest though, the online descriptions being used now, is much, uhm "accurate" then it used to be.


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