With gun safes, like anything else, there is no substitute for a quality product...

[TriumphRat675]

Figure this is as good a subforum as any for this topic. With gun safes, like anything else, there is no substitute for quality.

I do wonder if some of the more expensive safes can be similarly hacked.

[Robryan]

Figure this is as good a subforum as any for this topic. With gun safes, like anything else, there is no substitute for quality.

I do wonder if some of the more expensive safes can be similarly hacked.

The most important thing is to have your safe installed, mounted or what ever is necessary to keep it from being removed from your house. If removed no matter what safe you have it can be cut open. A plasma cutter can cut through any safe in a minute or so. Few burglars will stay in a home long enough or bring in the heavy equipment needed to open most safes.

Some safes can be opened with people with specials skills but few safes are ever broken into by a skilled safe cracker.

[p22shooter30]

hiding the safe is most important. if they cant see it then they cant pry a cheap one open

[Moose-Knuckle]

Understand there is a BIG differance between safes/vaults and what the industry markets as " gun safes" which in reality are nothing more than RCSs (Residential Security Containers).

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7276337_di...container.html

[Redhat]

Unfortunately they don't say anything about what DOES work

[Moose-Knuckle]

Unfortunately they don't say anything about what DOES work

This thread has some good information on the matter.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=51518

[FAS1]

Here's the report on these type handgun safes. It's meant to show how easy many can be compromised and how useless the CA DOJ approval on these are. They are trying to point out to consumers that just because it meets those standards which are based on breaking in with common hand tools for specified periods of time that in many cases you don't have to destroy the safe to gain access.

DETAILED REPORT ON THE INSECURITY OF GUN SAFES MADE BY LEADING U.S. MANUFACTURERS: STACK-ON, GUNVAULT, AND BULLDOG

There are several other good options out there that put more money into their product quality rather than advertising. Unfortunately those products don't have as high of visibility and you have to look for them rather than popping up everywhere online and in stores. These products will be between $150.00 - $250.00 price range and made from at least 11ga steel all the way up to 7ga. As easy as the ones shown are broken into without damage, how hard do you think it is to flex something made of 21ga - 16ga sheetmetal enough to get in? The combination of thicker steel, no unused holes, and a mechanical pushbutton lock is hard to beat for security, speed, and reliability. Be sure and bolt it down to something solid. All you can really do is deter them enough to move on and clearly many aren't much of a deterrant.

[Redhat]

For a single gun quick access safe, my main concern is preventing kids from getting in...I assume crooks could take the whole thing and open it later.

Any recommendations?

[FAS1]

For a single gun quick access safe, my main concern is preventing kids from getting in...I assume crooks could take the whole thing and open it later.

Any recommendations?

Well, I'm partial so my opinion is simply that.

http://www.fas1safe.com

Fort Knox and Vline also use a similar type of pushbutton mechanical lock on their products.

[seabiscuit]

What about something that can hold several long guns too? I've realized that serious theft protection is out of my budget right now, but I want something to stop normal burglars and kids.