Anyone seen a M-4 with A2 upper?

**Todd00000** · 08-06-12, 10:53

Originally Posted by scottryan

That isn't proof.

Nobody has posted a property marked matching M4 or M4A1 with a fixed carry handle. This debate has gone on for 10 years.

Everyone one of these stories turns out to be a model 727 or a property marked M4 lower that was rebuilt with a 727 upper, or some type of colt prototype.

I have uppers in my personal collection that were from the first month of M4 and M4A1 production and they have C AF gray flattop uppers.

I think people remembering the CAR just say the first “M4s” had fixed handles. I’ve never seen one and never heard of this until I joined this site. I was a BDE HHC XO in 1998 when the 101st received our M4 and they were normal M4s.

**Split66** · 08-07-12, 11:31

The story of the several thousand M4 marked weapons with A2 uppers delivered in 1994 is mentioned and perpetuated in many places, but until I see one I agree with Scotty. It's a unicorn....pony....

**fowler** · 08-09-12, 19:40

I have completed the 727 A2 clone with a 16" M4 profile barrel with FN A2 upper,Colt inners and bolt in a Double-Star lower with a Fiberight stock. Handy light accurate carbine with peeps.

**Todd00000** · 08-10-12, 05:41

Originally Posted by fowler

I have completed the 727 A2 clone with a 16" M4 profile barrel with FN A2 upper,Colt inners and bolt in a Double-Star lower with a Fiberight stock. Handy light accurate carbine with peeps.

Well take a pic please.

**BRAAIJR** · 08-10-12, 10:33

They Do I have seen Comercial Guns In DOS Armories Marked M4/M16A2! The Serial Number Series Started with an A!

**fowler** · 08-13-12, 16:18

FN A2 upper,mil-spec car15 stock fiberight N stamped,16" M4 chrome bore A2 hider,Colt small parts on Double-Star lower. OD green sling. Navy converted 727 in stock to M4, http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2006smallarms/gaskill.pdf

**Horned Toad** · 10-01-12, 16:56

Originally Posted by fowler

A retro I am working on is going to have a A2 upper with 16" M4 profile barrel. Seems these are middle ground carbines between the Xm-GAU types of the beginning to the current M4 models. I like the A2 upper with peep sites. I found some Colt 727 pictures,but not any good U.S. information on use in service or dates.

M4 barrel profile or M4 marked.
I carried Colt with a Car-15 roll marks for a while. full auto,A2 upper, 14.5 M4 barrel sn was in the 802xxxx range. We got 14.5 inch M4 marked Colts in late 94.

**peabody** · 10-06-12, 08:16

i have an A2 upper with an M4 16" barrel on it.
i dont know who made it..no markings on the upper.
barrel i believe ..is a bushmaster.
picked it up at a gun show.
it shoots good.

**kaltesherz** · 10-06-12, 09:05

Originally Posted by peabody

i have an A2 upper with an M4 16" barrel on it.
i dont know who made it..no markings on the upper.
barrel i believe ..is a bushmaster.
picked it up at a gun show.
it shoots good.

That has NOTHING to do with what we're talking about, we're talking about factory marked Colt M4 (14.5" with safe-fire-burst), not your hobby gun.