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Mine is a half hour into the boonies from where I live. It's about 75ish miles from the closest 100k population city. I'd like to be 200ish miles away from the nearest big city.
To answer your second question, no, that shouldn't stop you from heading out if some disaster occurs. But you'll have to keep a few cans of fuel on hand, and you'll have to plot out a couple different routes that avoid highways, towns, bridges.
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Mine is about 60 miles away from me. It is about 90 miles awy from the the largest city in the area, 110,000 people.Originally Posted by pete57
Depends on where you live if you need to bug out or bug in. If you live in a very large city then it would be best to leave no matter how far you need to go.
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We actually have a couple different sites. One a fifth wheel trailer in the high dessert it's GTG pretty much with stuff. About 30/40 minutes by vehicle.
2nd up is a ranch about 30/40minutes the other direction. Lots of water, lots of deer, elk and other game animals. Recently short logged with lots of standing timber and lots of downed timer. For building.
3rd location is 100miles at least high lakes area, tough country and lots of snow in the winter. Very isolated, no personal resources staged.
Lots and lots of natural resources. Between Nevada and Oregon, another 10 miles and your into some tough dessert with maybe 2 people per 10 mile square.
Those 2 people are there for the same reasons we would be there.
Our location up high is at a sort of base camp, which is right on top of where a huge spring come out of a hill side and feeds a series of smallish creeks, which are packed with small native golden trout.
WHat is interesting about two of these locations is that the dept of forestry has recently put in solar panels within a mile of two sites forsome reason. The panels are o eight feet by ten feet at one and twelve feet by fourteen at another.
Way out in the middle of nowhere. Has something to do with summer range cattle.
I can't see letting a resource like that going to waste.
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What is the plan if you cannot get to your bug out location by vehicle due to whatever reason...EMP, roads unpassable, etc.? Bug in or walk?
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Is this thread about Defense Strategy or Bug Out Strategy
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You need multiple locations imo. Most people I train with have same. Contingency plans are not only necessary but mandatory. I have different locations that are seasonal as well. North or South facing locations, areas w/ more game, rivers, streams, lakes, brooks etc. You don't know what will happen as nobody does so obviously you need to be prepared as the situation will be fluid, dynamic & evolving. You may have DIP (Defend In Place) AO's, food cache's, points of resupply etc. GPS your coordinates & log them, TOPO maps etc. Look up temperate weather conditions etc.
What's the down side of RECCEing/reconnoitering ?
Light is fast, Speed is survival, 7 P's etc.
You have to access that situation LP / OP / RECCE the AO / Grid at that time & make your choice. That situation is fluid, dynamic & evolving so that may change as well in fact bank on it changing. I prefer to ambulate at night but that's me.
Adapt, innovate & overcome etc...(whether you follow CAG/ACE/DevGru/RLTW/CCT/RECON etc. methodology/doctrines)
After a point you will get to analysis paralysis. You simply cannot fit a square peg et al in asymmetrical shape no matter how much you over analyze every contingency.
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Roads impassable, should never be an issue. Buy a road map and plot out two or three different routes. Avoid bridges, towns, interstate highways. Basically you're looking for a leisurely stroll through the countryside at 45mph.
EMP/CME, I'd say stay with the bulk of your supplies. If you theoretically could make it on foot, but would have to leave behind hundreds of pounds of food and hundreds of rounds of ammo, its not worth it. But note that you'd have to keep a super super low profile, because if the gangs find you out, you're in a world of shit.
If you preposition most if your food and ammo and equipment at your BOL, this principle still applies. Stay with your supplies. Get there on foot.
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Maybe we should open another thread which covers Bugging In or Out to keep this reoccurring question condensed in one easy to find source.
The above being said I opened a new thread for those who may be interested.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...46#post1375946
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Back to defense....Is this thread about Defense Strategy or Bug Out Strategy
Thoughts on barriers for defense purposes. Should they be Overt or Covert or is it Situational?
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Overt: Sends the message that maybe the next house down is a better target. Often less limiting in terms of effectiveness.
Covert: Doesn't send the message that you probably have stuff worth taking, doesn't give as much advance notice of its presence, either before SHTF or during, thus reducing the ability of others to prepare for it.
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