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Best way to clean the gas tube is to shoot more rounds.![]()
Leave the sucka alone.
OK went shooting again this evening and I talked to one of the employees at the gun range about the guys cleaning their gas tubes well it turns out he is the one that recommended them clean gas tube. He has a AR from a company called gunsmoke enterprise and on their web site they have a cleaning manual part 1 (which I watched real exciting) around 16:30 this person does recommend cleaning gas tube. Here is vid its at bottom of page
http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/vids.htm
I basically told him everyone I have talked to says to leave it alone.
Last edited by white spaniard; 01-30-08 at 00:33. Reason: spelling
"Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
As other mentioned, messing with the interior of the gas tube will invite trouble.
It's a shame people take this type of thing as gospel. The only thing I've ever done to a gas tube is wipe the residue off the outer portion extending inside the reciever and between the upper and delta ring. Leave the inside alone!!
I have been shooting AR's for the better part of 15 years, never cleaned a gas tube ever! Do not listen to this guy!
I just checked out their webpage. I am very suspect of a company that does the following:
-Advertises that "You too can own the same rifle used by CONTRACTORS in IRAQ!"
-Basic model retails for $695.
-Pistol model is built on "Navy SEAL" lower, complete with "Commando" marking.
-Refers to the optic on an "A3 Rifle with Quad Rail" as an Aimpoint, despite the obvious fact that it is a POS Knock-off in a cheapie mount.
-Shows an incorrectly mounted Aimpoint M2 in the optics page.
-Lists more knock-off "optics" than E-Bay.
ETA-
Just watched cleaning video![]()
Problems-
-Uses a Vortex flash suppressor, which they manufacture in-house. Suprising, since Smith Enterprises holds a trademark on the Vortex FH.
-Insistent on removal of copper fouling, but uses Hoppes 9, which takes days to fully remove copper fouling. If it is so important, why isn't he using a real copper solvent like Hoppes Benchrest Copper Solvent?
-Advises use of WD-40 as a cleaner.
-Advises use of CLP as a preservative for chrome bores, despite the dismal performance of CLP as a long-term storage protectant, and the simple fact that the chrome bore isn't going to rust.
-Sees bolts that have fired 1,000 rounds and is amazed that they still fire. Though it is common knowledge that many people and organizations have run their ARs for thousands of rounds without cleaning.
-Seems to believe that a bent rod will damage the chrome lining of a bore, but then says that it is ok to scrape chrome lining with a steel cutter.
-Says that if the gaps in the gas rings are aligned, the weapon will not function.
-Advises replacing gas rings every 1,500 rounds.
-Says that carbon build-up on bolt tail will somehow cause a lost gas seal.
-Lubes inside of gas key.
-Says that headspace is gauged off of the throat.
-Says that the shifting weights in the buffer act as a timing device.
I am less than confident in this individual, and would be just as doubtful of information from someone that would buy that drivel.
I explained to the guy at range that everyone I have asked says leave it alone he basically told me to STFU that he works at a gunstore/range and he knows a hell of alot more than me, and the gun manu recommends cleaning the tube.I will take Grant's @G&RTactical advice and find another range to go and shoot at.
"Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
Going to another range is sound advice. Take it! And don't ever let this guy work on any of your guns.
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