NYPD 124gr +P Gold Dot vs. Dog Video

[200RNL]

http://gothamist.com/2012/08/14/grap..._east_vill.php

[Microalign]

I hate the public sometimes.

[jared91]

So, did it not properly expand??? With its body being that small, you would think it would have killed it, not just wounded it..

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[jmoore]

>>So, did it not properly expand??? With its body being that small, you would think it would have killed it, not just wounded it..<<

Although the charging dog looked huge to the LEO, there still was nowhere near the mass of an average adult human - so a good chance there wasn't full expansion (possibly even a TT-GSW). Similar problem US forces ran into in Somalia in 1993. (If you're not familiar with the termminology - one of the nicknames for the locals was "skinnies".) Barring a CNS shot - without perfect placement into large plumbing (which will still take time for vic to become hypotensive/LOC), there sometimes isn't enough distance for deformation, fragmentation or energy dump (depending on the caliber/speed). I'm sure Doc will chime in with more data.

Her first day on the job, my wife (a veterinarian) had to treat a Rotty that had a 12-14" wound track (slug!) from a 12 gauge - fired so close tha wad was also in the wound track. Rotty pulled through.

FWIW - how was that for a real life Teuller Drill? From the holster while backing up - starting to get off the line of the attack! Anyone know what type of holsters they use?

john

[Voodoo_Man]

LOVE the comments from the peanut gallery in the video "WHY YOU SHOOT HIM..." then comes all the cursing and hateful remarks.

I also find it interesting how the person who wrote the post in the link says that the dogs owners was "having a seizure." Narcotics will do that.

[TiroFijo]

What a buch of idiots yelling at the officer...

Some people are stupid beyond your wildest dreams. I'm really sorry for the officers that have to endure such public.

[NeoNeanderthal]

That sucks that the dog had to get shot, he was all jacked up because his owner just had a seizure and there were cops approaching him.

However, who would let a pitbull attack them just because the dog didn't understand what was going on? Many people honestly expect a cop to just let a dog maul them because it's an innocent animal. Idiots.

I could understand the public being upset if the cop shot a docile little poodle and had no reason to be near the dog anyway but honestly wtf people. You can clearly see that dog charging that cop in the video!!

Imagine if the cops saw the dog backed off 50 yards and the guy got ran over, then people would REALLY be mad.

[bdcheung]

A whole lot of "wrong place, wrong time" going on there.

Did the officer not have less than lethal means he could have employed?

[Voodoo_Man]

A whole lot of "wrong place, wrong time" going on there.

Did the officer not have less than lethal means he could have employed?

The dog started becoming aggressive extremely quickly, attacking a pedestrian first then the officer. Given the close distance of the public with the animal, OC spray may have accidentally contaminated innocent pedestrians. Per the video it was less than 2.5 seconds, roughly, from when the dog attacked a pedestrian to when the dog attacked the officer. 2.5 seconds is not enough for anything more than a one stop hit reaction and that is all that can be expected.

[Microalign]

Okay, I watched the whole video again, and I am getting more pissed off at the bystanders. F**king liberal New Yorkers.