View Poll Results: Would You Pay For An AR15 Armorer Course?

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  • No. There is no need for civilians to learn this.

    7 1.83%
  • No. I would rather spend the money on accessories.

    9 2.35%
  • Yes, but it depends on cost and location.

    343 89.56%
  • Yes, I would no matter what.

    24 6.27%
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    Quote Originally Posted by northern1 View Post
    And who the **** on M4carbine.net would vote civilians have no need to learn this stuff?? Whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by munch520 View Post
    my thoughts exactly
    Click on the number of voters and you can see exactly who voted that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    Click on the number of voters and you can see exactly who voted that way.
    Had no idea - thanks.

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    I can't understand why anyone would think that you do not need to know everything there is know about your weapon platform. Shouldn't matter if it's a rubber band pistol or Ma Duece 50 cal!

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    Edited by Phila PD Double Tap Post
    Last edited by PA PATRIOT; 08-23-12 at 12:32. Reason: Edited by Phila PD Double Tap Post
    We are all inclined to judge ourselves by our ideals; others, by their acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    One guy owned up to the civilian vote. Mabye the others are just goofin.
    Exactly... I'm a big goofer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    Click on the number of voters and you can see exactly who voted that way.
    That's union thuggery and intimidation, Jack! Votes should be private.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    That's union thuggery and intimidation, Jack! Votes should be private.
    LOL I think the person making the poll has the option to make it private or not. At least that's how some of these VBulletin forums are set up.
    Steve

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    I hope these classes go well for IG. The frequency and location of classes limits a lot of private citizens attendance.

    A few comments on the tool list:

    The 5/64 punch is hard to find and the one sold by Brownells is junk. It will bend when used on a rifle that has been well used.

    Are roll pin punches necessary? Couldn't a standard punch be used to finish installation of the roll pin?

    Should a bolt disassembly tool be added to the list?

    Again, the bolt catch punch sold by Brownells is junk. It is not made from the proper steel and is not heat treated properly. The tips mushroom and require frequent dressing if they don't break outright.

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    Apperantly LAV voted that he would take an AR-15 class hosted by IG.
    We miss you, AC.
    We miss you, ToddG.

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    Please don't take this as Phila PD is trying to be a jerk off and is flaming Iraqgunz but I think I have a valid question which can affect many who wish to obtain "Certification" on the AR platform thur one of Iraqgunz courses.

    Iraqgunz after reading your posted statement of,

    Instructor Bio: This course will be taught by a veteran of both the U.S Army and U.S Coast Guard who has over 20 years of experience using the AR15 family of weapons. Having completed a deployment to the Middle East in support of operations Iraqi and Enduring Freedom in 2005, he entered into the private sector working in Iraq and Afghanistan as an armorer/ instructor for several large private military companies supporting the Department of Defense and the Department of State. He has attended and completed numerous factory armorer courses from such companies as Beretta, Barrett, Colt, Dillon Aero, FNHUSA, Glock, Knights’ Armament, Remington, and SigSauer

    I have to ask does any manufacturer such as Colt, FN, SigSauer, etc. recognize and authorize you or your company to conduct armors courses and provide official certification in their names once the course is successfully completed?

    Without such factory/manufacturer authorization then any certification you offered would not be "Official" and rejected by any reputable employer for those students seeking official accreditation for employment purposes.

    While I hold several factory trained armorers certifications none allow me to teach and provide certification in the manufacturers name.

    So in closing what weight would a "Certification" issued by your course hold if measured against factory/manufacturer certification?
    We are all inclined to judge ourselves by our ideals; others, by their acts.

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