View Poll Results: Would You Pay For An AR15 Armorer Course?

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  • No. There is no need for civilians to learn this.

    7 1.83%
  • No. I would rather spend the money on accessories.

    9 2.35%
  • Yes, but it depends on cost and location.

    343 89.56%
  • Yes, I would no matter what.

    24 6.27%
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  1. #31
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    Yes, I would very interested, and grateful, to attend an AR15 armorer's course.

    Living in NJ, I have NEVER seen someone offer a class that was not restricted to LE/Mil. There is a pretty good size gun community in NJ, contracy to what many think. I have to believe, you would have no problem filling a class or 2.

    Please keep me informed if you ever decide to come out this way. If you find NJ is possible for you, I would be happy to try to put students together to fill your class with.

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    Yes, I would, if the price was reasonable and the location no more than a few hours away.

    I would like to see proper assembly/disassembly, gauging of critical components and wear, proper tools, malfunction diagnosis, and installation of common accessories covered.

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    If you did one within 3 hours of the Pittsburgh area I would definitely be there. Price is not so much of a concern but traveling would be a hindrance for me right now because of work.

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    I would definitely be interested in something like this. Most important to me would be to learn inspection procedures in depth and how to properly correct problems that commonly arise in the platform.

    How to properly troubleshoot a malfunctioning weapon would also be good to know as well

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    I would love to take one just to further my own knowledge of the platform and also to be able to do more of my own maintenance/building.

  6. #36
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    Your core emphasis and a hearty portion of instructional time should focus on cycle of operations, how things work, why they work as they do. Knowing function is key to recognizing, diagnosis, and troubleshooting malfunction. Learning exercises within the course should consistently reinforce this and verify student knowledge and understanding. It's not enough to memorize and regurgitate the cycle of operations. It must be understood.

    Many will want accessory installation and interaction information. You could waste days on this alone with the nuances of the various offerings out there. Keep the AC about the core system, not it's aftermarket components. With solid core knowledge, students can work through component issues and work with vendors thereafter.

    Proper disassembly and assembly procedures are important and should be taught. Keep it simple, keep it core, and avoid lego-building.

    Diagnostics and troubleshooting flow from the above. Specific examples and set-ups should follow, including live-fire troubleshooting if time and facilities allow.

    Avoiding legos and accessories will turn some off. That's fine, they're not the students you want anyway.

    Two days is a good target goal. It's short enough to make it realistic for people to attend and travel, while enough time to convey useful information.

    I've attended a number of ACs over the years. Those that emphasized the basics of system design and function have been the most useful in working on guns since.
    Last edited by ST911; 08-21-12 at 11:19.
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    Just don't make me assemble an A2 rear sight and we'll remain friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skintop911 View Post
    Avoiding legos and accessories will turn some off. That's fine, they're not the students you want anyway.
    I disagree. I want to focus on those gay tube free float things and how to color coordinate AR stocks, grips, and rail covers, etc.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

  9. #39
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    I know I would attend one. It would have to be in driving distance since I do not fly out of fear......
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    For those that may be concerned about distance- it shouldn't be an issue. You could simply take charge and be the POC for your area. Then you will have it in your backyard and you will get a free seat as well. For those in the midwest I am currently in Wisconsin so places like Ohio, Indiana, Illinois shouldn't be an issue.



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