View Poll Results: Would You Pay For An AR15 Armorer Course?

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  • No. There is no need for civilians to learn this.

    7 1.83%
  • No. I would rather spend the money on accessories.

    9 2.35%
  • Yes, but it depends on cost and location.

    343 89.56%
  • Yes, I would no matter what.

    24 6.27%
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Thread: Would You Pay For An AR15/M16/M4 Armorer Course?

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    Interested, but only if you supply Froglube wipes.
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    Do have an idea of what the minimum number of participants would be for you to do a class in the Pittsburgh area. I'd know that'd be a bit of a flight for you.

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    I have to laugh at the morons (ya I said it) that think Civy's shouldn't know how to take apart and build their AR.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I have to laugh at the morons (ya I said it) that think Civy's shouldn't know how to take apart and build their AR.
    I normally would have voted that to be an ASS... but since it was Gunz's thread I voted legit.
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    IG. Thanks for the idea. While you have said that you would do it if you could fly then drive to the venue, but you haven't said what YOU would need as an instructor.

    What type of facilities will you need?

    Will you need a place with workbenches?

    Would you require/prefer a private range?

    Would it be easier for you if you had a place to ship/transfer tools, equipment, or firearms/receivers?

    How large of a class are you willing to teach at one time? When I did the Glock armorers course I had a phenominal instructor but the class was just a touch too large.

    Would it be beneficial for you to have access to a projector with powerpoint/video/ etc.?

    I ask because I am very interested, have the ability to host a class, and like most here there is a community that is HUNGRY for that type of knowledge because most people that I have contacted only do LE/MIL only ACs.

    Have you decided if this would be a certificate program? I think it would be beneficial ESPECIALLY because it isn't brand specific.

    Just some ideas. Hopefully not too long.

    Thank you for your time.
    T

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I disagree. I want to focus on those gay tube free float things and how to color coordinate AR stocks, grips, and rail covers, etc.
    You forgot your affinity for anti-roll pins, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watrdawg View Post
    That lack of specific knowledge really highlights why I would attend a class such as this.
    Agreed - having 'built some before' doesn't mean I got it 100% correct the first (or second, or third,...) time.
    Last edited by munch520; 08-21-12 at 13:51.

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    I was fortunate enough to take an Armorer course last Fall that sounds very similar to what you are considering. It was a two day course and was well worth the cost. It was mostly LEO attending and usually it is restricted to LEO/Military only, but there were a few of us "civilians" who were allowed to fill some empty spots. You brought your own rifle, although you could make arrangements ahead of time for a rifle to be supplied for you. I have nothing bad to say about the course, so below are some points I liked (in no particular order):

    - The class was kept moving along at a good pace. It was not too fast as to leave people confused, but it also was not slow to the point of people staring at the walls.

    - Springs...bring LOTS of springs. Other small spare parts are good as well, but those dang springs are elusive bastards.

    - The tools were supplied by the instructor for each attendee.

    - Small samples of Slip lube and cleaner were given to each attendee. (People like goodie bags)

    - At the end of the course, a "Industry Standard 5 year Armorer's Certification" was supplied to each attendee who had completed the course.

    - The course gave me the knowledge to break down a standard AR15/M16/M4 to its individual pieces (all pins, screws, nuts) and then put it back together.

    - I understood the function of all of the pieces of the rifle and how they work together.

    Now, am I foolish enough to think the course makes me an "expert" on the platform? Heck no, but I feel much more confident in my use, understanding, and troubleshooting of any issues with my rifle.

    I hope things work out for you to offer the course to us civilians, since it seems like a lot of them are restricted.

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    I would pay for it if it were within about a 4 hour drive. The main goal for me attending one of your classes would be to benefit from your experience. I can read the manual but I have relatively little experience working on ARs. You have a ton of experience and know a lot more than what's in a manual. I'd like to learn what you've seen work, not work in terms of tools, techniques etc and what you look out for when selecting tools, parts and whatnot. If you could bring examples of broken or out of spec parts to use as training aids that would be valuable i.e. "here's a part that's out of spec, here's why it broke/caused malfunctions".

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    I would Love this if you come down my way .I tried to get into a COLT Class Locally But was turned away because I was a non LE


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