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Just a little clarification of terms. I figure you are here for info, so I will provide you with some regarding your question.
There are no "Class 3" weapons. Class 3 is a classification of SOT (Special Occupational Taxpayer), or dealer. The weapon is an NFA, or Title 2, weapon, which covers suppressors, SBRs, machineguns, DDs, and AOWs. I have made the mistake as well, as pretty much everyone has initially. Class 3 dealers deal in NFA weapons. I am not an SOT nor do I own any NFA weapons, so I am simply going off of my current knowledge base from my desire to acquire one when I have the time. This forum is supposed to be about first-hand knowledge, but since you aren't getting much help I am doing what I can. Hopefully someone with an NFA weapon in NC will chime in.
NC is NOT NFA friendly. Just do a quick search for "North Carolina NFA" on google and see what you get. Here's one link of one guy's experience. Even if you do successfully acquire an NFA weapon in NC you will need to move it to a secure location (as defined by BATFE) should you be deployed or PCS. A-1 Storage does not qualify.
There are Marines that have NFA weapons, but all of the ones I know live in private residences, and I didn't know any while aboard MCBCL. As long as your permanent address (I am going to assume that you have a living relative that you use as your permanent address for USMC/Tax purposes) is in a state that permits SBRs, I would urge you to register and store your weapon at that location. Once you EAS or PCS you can request permission from the ATF to move the weapon to your new home.
I would also not store an NFA weapon in the armory, as you will have no control over who can fondle your gun like frat-boys with a passed-out cheerleader.
Mac- how about easing up on the guy? The people here know a hell of a lot more about NFA weapons than the COC will. He's just trying to get some info, not asking about MCBOs.
BTW- I spent lots of time trying to bang strippers at the Dirtwood. . .
Last edited by Failure2Stop; 02-01-08 at 15:24. Reason: chill
ok ok I'll be nice. But I have to disagree, there are far worse places than the Dirtwood there!! Sucks, I always won the hoggin' contests.
But my point still stands. That is a question for the chain of command really.
And we're Marines, so thick skin is mandatory. You can always leave it up to a fellow Marine to slap you in the nuts and call you dumb.
And I have to agree with the above stated. Just wait to you get out to get that. Funny how "wait until you get out" is the answer for alot of the problems in the Corps haha. Sucks it's true.
Come on devil. Just two tours in Iraq by now? shit we've been there for nearly 5 years. Good on you. Maybe they will take the reigns off of our boys again.
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NC is NOT NFA friendly.
There are Marines that have NFA weapons, but all of the ones I know live in private residences, and I didn't know any while aboard MCBCL. As long as your permanent address (I am going to assume that you have a living relative that you use as your permanent address for USMC/Tax purposes) is in a state that permits SBRs, I would urge you to register and store your weapon at that location. Once you EAS or PCS you can request permission from the ATF to move the weapon to your new home.
I would also not store an NFA weapon in the armory, as you will have no control over who can fondle your gun like frat-boys with a passed-out cheerleader.
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This is partly true. North Carolina IS NFA FRIENDLY and Sheriff Ed Brown will sign your Form 1 or Form 4 for a SBR, SBS, Suppressor, or Machine Gun - I don't know about AOW or DD as I have not or know anyone who has tried these - and he usually does this while you are there if you schedule an appointment with his secretary.
Do some research to the places the ATF allows you to keep a weapon; a good choice if you want to have it close would be a safety deposit box in Jacksonville. I would agree that you don't want to have the hassle with the armory for any firearm.
Tim
Tim-
Have you done NFA transactions in NC?
Everything I have seen, including NC State Law (link) says that in order to possess an NFA wepon you need to qualify for the following:
It seems to be the general consensus that to qualify you must meet provision 1 or 2, or 3 and 4.1.Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties;
2.Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms, ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the laws of the United States or the State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under their licenses;
3.Persons under contract with the United States, the State of North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their contracts; or
4.Inventors, designers, ordinance consultants and researchers, chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in pursuits designed to enlarge the knowledge of or to facilitate the creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent with the laws of the United States and the State of North Carolina.
I had an acquaintance that applied for a silencer permit and was told to piss off, so he went through his permanent address in Virginia.
Of course, if you have done it, and know how to word the application, the information would be appreciated.
Yes I have. My first two were done while livng in Onslow County. No probelms at all, contacted Phil Flack, a dealer in Ashville, NC as he specializes in HK and I needed a host weapon modified to accept a sear so I used him to buy the sear as well, it was being sold by a dealer in South Carolina and need to be transfered to a NC dealer first. He sent me the Form 4, I took it to Sheriff Brown, he signed it on the spot. I had my fingerprints taken at the Jacksonville PD and I sent the paperwork in to the ATF. A couple of months later Phil Flack called and I picked up my machine gun. Second was just as smooth and simple. I have also done transfers in CO and VA and these were the same process. I think once you do your first transfer and see how easy it is, it becomes no big deal.
I have good friends who have had similar experiences with SBR's, SBS, and suppressors in Onslow County, to the point where Sheriff Brown recognized one of them out in town as "The NFA Guy."
The problem the original poster will have is where to store the weapon, if he can own it in the eyes of the ATF - looking at federal law - then he won't have a problem once the Sheriff signs off on the paperwork.
ETA: First Form 4 reason I listed was, "personal collection" the second was, "scientific research & experimental purposes, protection of my home and business."
Tim
Tim-
Awesome, good info.
Appreciated.
This was very entertaining...Back in my day we used to go out to Silver & Gold in Sneads Ferry, which Is now called "Cherrie's" If I'm not mistaken. And not to bust anyone's balls but 2 deployments at the rate the op tempo Is these days...Big Deal! Also to the Sgt who was trying to help his junior Devil Dog out...good on you, It's just to bad that these young guys don't appreciate anyone trying to excercise some leadership and offer some good advice.
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