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Thread: What's everyone beef with DPMS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556 View Post
    Yes sir...great advice. For those who may be able to afford whatever they want!!!

    But what about the guy/gal who is on minimum wage who has saved 6 bills to buy an AR and it would take and year or two more to save up for the "Best".

    Wouldn't it be better for him/her to at least be in the ball game with a DPMS.

    My bet is those users wouldn not shoot their weapon as hard as most of us do.

    With proper breakin and maintance I think it would be better then nothing.

    Kinda like being stuck out in the middle of nowhere with a flat and no lug wrench.......A cresent wrench could save the day........
    Build one from quality parts then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post


    I couldn't even read half of what you wrote.
    Maybe I typed too fast, Try reading slower. lol

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    DPMS ain't no Craftsman. That's for damn
    Sure. BM is craftsman with their warranty etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Build one from quality parts then.
    Some folks can't change a tire.......

    Come on now. You understand.

    You would'nt deny honest hard working folks the ability to defend themself and family or put food on the table..... would you? If there were only horsey stamps running around you would do just that.

    DPMS, BM and others mentioned exist for the same reason Wal Mart and McDonalds exist.......

    Bash them all you want they aren't going away.

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    The three worst of the worst:

    1. Model 1 sales
    2. Oly arms
    3. DPMS

    The problem with these companies is not only the sub-standard parts and production, it's the fact that they ask a premium for their products.

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    You people are discussing the worst AR manufacturers and NOBODY even mentions Vulcan?

    This thread sucks!

    Seriously - I don't have much experience with DPMS, but the lower on my Del-Ton M4 is a DPMS, and I believe that Del-Ton's LPKs are basically DPMS LPKs. I've had absolutely no issues with it. The fit and finish on the lower is fine - everything is flush.

    But I haven't fired entire DPMS rifles so I can't say much else, but yeah.

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    Take all that has been written here and think about the following:

    The closest thing DPMS makes to an entry-level M4gery is the AP4, which prices on Impact Guns at $799. This comes complete with (2) 30 round mags, cleaning kit, sling, substandard parts and questionable assembly.

    G&R Tactical sells the ADS (link to thread) for $825. This comes complete with a hard case, D&H Magazine, check-up by Grant, properly tested parts, proper staking, and black extractor buffer.

    $26 isn't much for that kind of service, and that much of a step up in quality. But hey, that's just me.
    Jack Leuba
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    Knight's Armament Company
    jleuba@knightarmco.com

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    I have seen three broken bolts in person. All three were DPMS. All three cracked at the cam pin hole. One was at less than 300rounds when it occured.

    5.56mm chambers are essential for reliability in the AR platform in my experience. DPMS chambers have consistantly been closer to the .223 Remington spec.

    Can DPMS overcome their past shortcomings? Sure they can.

    Have they to any degree? I don't know, because I'm going to let someone else go spend their money on testing that out.
    NOT in training for combat deployment.

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    what's the beef

    Well I started the post so I guess I should put something. I have 2 DPMS rifles, one is the 308 LR-308AP4. I have shot about 2500 rounds with it and the only thing that has ever happened with it is the bolt didn't completely catch the round. The reason for that was I didn't push the mag all the way up(sounds stupid I know).My seconds DPMS is a 55.6 AP4 Carbine, I have shot around 2000 rounds with it and have yet to have ANY problem with it. I know everyone is going to ask if I have really put the guns to the test. I have, Rapid fire, not cleaned them, different loads and they have always fired just fine for me. So in my eyes I don't think they are as bad as everyone is saying, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cody0341 View Post
    Well I started the post so I guess I should put something. I have 2 DPMS rifles, one is the 308 LR-308AP4. I have shot about 2500 rounds with it and the only thing that has ever happened with it is the bolt didn't completely catch the round. The reason for that was I didn't push the mag all the way up(sounds stupid I know).My seconds DPMS is a 55.6 AP4 Carbine, I have shot around 2000 rounds with it and have yet to have ANY problem with it. I know everyone is going to ask if I have really put the guns to the test. I have, Rapid fire, not cleaned them, different loads and they have always fired just fine for me. So in my eyes I don't think they are as bad as everyone is saying, but that's just me.
    That's fine but your statistical sample size of:

    2

    does not really hold up when you look at civilian contract trainers and organizations that see hundreds and thousands of units. If yours run for you then rock on, brother!

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