45ACP did not stop until head shot

[arthury]

5 rounds in the torso did not stop the assailant until the final head shot ...

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4527526

I thot the 45ACP should have stopped the man much sooner?

[CLJ94104]

Crackhead strength or bath salts. Ya never know... I don't know why I can't get this story to pull up. It's aggravating.

[Zhukov]

5 rounds in the torso did not stop the assailant until the final head shot ...

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4527526

I thot the 45ACP should have stopped the man much sooner?

It's not that easy.

You simply can't just assume that anything will work the way you want it to. While the shots hit the "torso", there's no telling where exactly. The story mentions that at least one was a gut shot - that's not something that will kill you immediately. Depending on where the other bullets hit, you can easily see the same thing happening. Dumb luck might have avoided all the vital organs and blood-carrying vessels.

The vital organs in the chest present a deceptively small target:



The shot to the head will definitely be a showstopper though. Also keep in mind that the mental state of the assailant plays a huge part in the encounter. This perp was obviously oblivious to getting shot.

[ETA] The illustration above is from our very own member Odd_Job.

[arthury]

For those who cannot open the link, here's the text ...

Bystander Fired Deadly Shot, Not Officer
There were two big developments Monday in the case of a motorist who was shot and killed along Greenwell Springs Road Friday after a fight with a police officer. Investigators say an autopsy shows the deadly bullet was fired by a bystander, not the officer. Police also announced that no charges would be filed in the case, either against the police officer involved or the bystander who fired the fatal shot into the head of George Temple.

East Baton Rouge Sheriff's spokesman Greg Phares says Officer Brian Harrision was escorting a funeral procession Friday when he pulled Temple over and wrote him a ticket for breaking into the procession. According to Phares, that's when Temple attacked Harrison. Police say Perry Stevens was walking outside of the Auto Zone on Greenwell Springs Road when he heard Harrison yelling for help. Harrison was reportedly on his back with Temple on top of him. That's when Stevens went to his car and grabbed his .45 caliber pistol.

According to Col. Greg Phares, "[Mr. Stevens] orders Mr. Temple to stop and get off the officer. The verbal commands are ignored and Mr. Stevens fires four shots, all of which struck Mr. Temple."

Perry Stevens fired four shots into Temple's torso. Officer Harrison had already fired one shot into Temple's abdomen. With Temple still struggling with the officer, Perry continued to advance toward the scuffle.

"He again orders Mr. Temple to stop what he was doing and get off the officer. Those commands are ignored and he fires a fifth shot and that hits his head. The incident is over with, and as you know, Mr. Temple is dead."

Police are calling the shooting death justified. Perry Stevens has a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Col. Phares would not give out any more details relating to the shooting. Both Phares and Baton Rouge Police Chief Jeff LeDuff stopped short of crediting Stevens with saving the officer's life. LeDuff says the entire incident is unfortunate.

"I spoke with his father at the scene briefly," said LeDuff. "I think this is a tragic situation all around."

9 News is told George Temple has a criminal record, and Officer Harrison was involved in a shooting while employed as a prison guard in East Baton Rouge Parish, where he was suspended for three days back in 1995.

Reporter: Jim Shannon

[SHIVAN]

I thot the 45ACP should have stopped the man much sooner?

Please do not bring this sort of tactic to this forum. It's common enough everywhere else on the Net, leave it there.

[Caduceus]

It's not that easy.

You simply can't just assume that anything will work the way you want it to. While the shots hit the "torso", there's no telling where exactly. The story mentions that at least one was a gut shot - that's not something that will kill you immediately. Depending on where the other bullets hit, you can easily see the same thing happening. Dumb luck might have avoided all the vital organs and blood-carrying vessels.

The vital organs in the chest present a deceptively small target:



The shot to the head will definitely be a showstopper though. Also keep in mind that the mental state of the assailant plays a huge part in the encounter. This perp was obviously oblivious to getting shot.

[ETA] The illustration above is from our very own member Odd_Job.

I disagree with the bold'd statement. I've personally witnessed someone shot in the head with a 9mm walk away from the hospital the next day. And I've had witnessed/treated/assisted with "head shots" get stopped in the face, never penetrating the cranial vault.

I will submit that it's more likely to be fatal than a standard torso shot, but nothing in life is 100%.

[arthury]

The angle of impact and the varying thickness of the skull may have played into all headshot scenarios.

[SkyPup]

Professional assassins use .22 long rifle more than any other caliber.

Urban snipers also prefer .22 long rifle as well.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htw.../20120830.aspx

[Caduceus]

The angle of impact and the varying thickness of the skull may have played into all headshot scenarios.

Most certainly. All of the face shots were angled.

That 9mm though was ''dead center'' between the 2 eyes, maybe 1/2 above the eyebrows. Went right down the middle of the brain, between the 2 cerebral halves, and somehow didn't damage either. I believe it'll be the only one I'll ever see like that, but like I said, nothing is a certainty. No idea on the maker, style of bullet, skull thickness or distance from shooter (it was also 4 years ago)

[CLJ94104]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Hgh79AZ87_2xEQ

Here is the updated story on that godforsaken site.