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    Quote Originally Posted by Shabazz View Post
    Actually, every IQ test ever designed disagrees with you. (note: Don't think I am saying this because my group comes out on top, because it doesn't.)

    Race is an effective predictor of many physical, intellectual and social traits.
    The question is, is that due to the "race" itself or the common behavior for people who are similar to group together, forming a culture to emerge in that grouping, which culture predisposes members to various behaviors that correlate to those traits?

    Bluntly put: are purple people eaters low scoring on the IQ tests because they are purple people eaters, or because purple people eaters tend to live together in ghettos which removes certain opportunities for intellectual stimulation and hence lower IQ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shabazz View Post
    Actually, every IQ test ever designed disagrees with you. (note: Don't think I am saying this because my group comes out on top, because it doesn't.)

    Race is an effective predictor of many physical, intellectual and social traits.
    Think about what you just wrote. I pointed out that "race" isn't even an actual classifier and provided citations. No matter how one tries to define race at the genetic level there are always exceptions. And that is because "race" amounts to little more than a genetic suntan or lack of one.

    Now if you'd like to generalize you can do that about many things. And there are many social, economic and cultural factors that come into play. A darker skin pigment doesn't make one exceptionally talented at basketball or more prone to criminal activity, that is more the result of cultures that place little value on intelligence and higher values on physical aggressiveness. But it's hardly about "race" because race doesn't really exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadbag View Post
    The question is, is that due to the "race" itself or the common behavior for people who are similar to group together, forming a culture to emerge in that grouping, which culture predisposes members to various behaviors that correlate to those traits?

    Bluntly put: are purple people eaters low scoring on the IQ tests because they are purple people eaters, or because purple people eaters tend to live together in ghettos which removes certain opportunities for intellectual stimulation and hence lower IQ?


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    Or more importantly, embracing cultural values that give higher degrees of social recognition to those who have been incarcerated than those who have graduated from college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    That just means not only are you a racist...but you HATE the POOR...
    No, it means I prefer to live as comfortable a life as my means can reasonably provide. It also means I know meth happens in the trailer park like crack happens in the ghetto and both attract people I don't wish to be socially acquainted with.
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    Haha you guys crack me up!

    Ah crap, isn't "you guys" racist or sexist or some sh*t?


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    I was under the impression a document called the U.S. Constitution afforded me the right to be racist if I so choose.... am I mistaken?

    since when.... does anyone have to like anyone else? When did that become a law? If I don't like someone because of their skin or sexual orientation, then its my god given right to hate them....

    that doesn't mean I have the right to assault them in anyway, but the 1st amendment does give me the right to say whatever I want...

    I can't believe all of these celebrities saying how they feel, and then going on the air and apologizing.... Imus for example.... **** that... obviously that man is more worried about ratings and sponsors than the freedom of speech he so readily clings to as a broadcast journalist...

    if not then I believe the Declaration of Independence is sexist... because it says "All Men" and not "All persons"

    and Sotomayor needs to be fired for her comments about how she as a Latina has more world experience and better decision making skills than a white man....
    " Sotomayor said, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

    On Wednesday afternoon, Gingrich wrote on Twitter: "Imagine a judicial nominee said 'my experience as a white man makes me better than a Latina woman' new racism is no better than old racism.White man racist nominee would be forced to withdraw."
    as Southpark said.... just because you tolerate someone doesn't mean you have to like them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reagans Rascals View Post
    I was under the impression a document called the U.S. Constitution afforded me the right to be racist if I so choose.... am I mistaken?
    I don't think anyone is trying to make it illegal. Basically it's just a bunch of people who define themselves by race (racists) getting upset because other people's phrases have racist origins because in the past others defined everyone by race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy View Post
    Oh, bullshit. That's not racist. THIS is racist: I bet I know the color of the guy who wrote that article.

    ETA: LMMFAO!! He looks like Smart Brother.

    ETA2: Holy ****amolie. DoS is even more ****ed up now than I remember. I could only read a couple of pages of that bullshit without vomiting peace signs and afrocentrist garbage.

    ETA3: "Overseas, we are also taking steps
    to employ a more diverse Locally Employed
    workforce by actively recruiting
    members of minority clans, tribes and
    groups in far-flung places such as Kathmandu,
    and by beginning an intern
    program for Romani in Budapest, to
    name just two examples."
    they have a DoS intern program for gypsies. Stop the planet, I want off.
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    Reading through most of these posts (couldn't make it through all) is absolute proof that some of us have far too much time on our hands. Regardless, the phrase "Hold down the fort" can essentially apply to countless past conflicts worldwide dating back thousands of years, so why this dipshit believes that the noble American Indian is otherwise so special is far beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    Reading through most of these posts (couldn't make it through all) is absolute proof that some of us have far too much time on our hands. Regardless, the phrase "Hold down the fort" can essentially apply to countless past conflicts worldwide dating back thousands of years, so why this dipshit believes that the noble American Indian is otherwise so special is far beyond me.
    +1

    "Hold down the fort" is a very vague reference and even attempting to connect it directly with the Native American/US Military engagements is dubious at best.
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