2012 Speer 24448 At a Glance

[WS6]

I ordered several cases, and decided to test a few rounds today.

This is not intended to be an in-depth review. Just a quick snap-shot. All shooting was done through a 14.5" Noveske with a Surefire 556-212 suppressor from the seated position using a roof-support as a brace. All shots were fired from 45 yards.

This is Feb. 2012 Production Speer 24448 .223.

It has nickel-plated casings, sealed primers (it appears to be a clear-looking "caulk" like used on the LE223T3 loads), un-sealed case-necks but a good crimp is present and I wouldn't worry about any moisture.


Yes, this is a 4-shot group. No, it is not the standard. No, it is not something to hang my hat on, just a general idea of what one might expect from this ammo using field-improvised shooting positions.






Bullet diameter measured 0.305" x 0.575", avg: 0.44". As you can see, it "over-expanded". This projectile is designed to expand reliably and fully out to 200 yards from a 10" barrel. It shows. Still, it held up VERY well! It penetrated fully 3 jugs filled with water and was found sitting on the ground, having exited the 3rd jug completely. The "group" measures 0.88". This equates to roughly 2MOA from a 14.5" chrome-lined CHF barrel using a field improvised position. I am very pleased with myself, the rifle, and the ammo. I was using an Aimpoint M4S. I have not done much shooting at all in the past few years. Probably 500 rounds total from a rifle in the last 3-4.


Path from right to left jug. Jugs not oriented to show path, just placed in order with most graphic destruction aspect facing camera.

[vicious_cb]

Very nice. Got any close ups of the expanded projectile? Where did you get the new production stuff? I have some .223 64gr Gold Dots and its loaded in dingy looking brass.

[rkba01]

This projectile is designed to expand reliably and fully out to 200 yards from a 10" barrel.

Where did you get this information from? Do you happen to know the minimum expansion velocity of this bullet?

[Hootiewho]

I recently did some playing around with the 24446 load. I took some old tires that were still inflated & on rims that came off my Tacoma & sat them on a bench with an IDPA target roughly 5 ft behind it. I shot through the inflated tires at about 20 yds with various .223, .308 & 9mm loads (the 55gr gold dot, 75 gr 556 TAP, 124gr FED HST 9mm +P, & 155 gr .308 TAP). The 55gr Gold Dot (now granted this is just 1 shot per round type), actually deviated the least & was the only rifle round that didn't keyhole. You could tell in the cardboard, the bullet had expanded some, but was pretty much inline with my POA. I have pics I'll try to get posted.

[WS6]

Where did you get this information from? Do you happen to know the minimum expansion velocity of this bullet?

It should expand well down to 1800fps or less. I know for fact that out of an LWRC PSD it expanded to .45 caliber at 100 yards during official testing.

[BufordTJustice]

Out****ingstanding, WS6. Great job.

Also, I know Trident was getting expansion out of the .223 Federal Fusion 62gr (same construction as 64gr GDSP) at 325 yards into water jugs from his LMT MRP 10.5".

I have no idea how fast they were going at that distance....but it was impressive.

[WS6]

Out****ingstanding, WS6. Great job.

Also, I know Trident was getting expansion out of the .223 Federal Fusion 62gr (same construction as 64gr GDSP) at 325 yards into water jugs from his LMT MRP 10.5".

I have no idea how fast they were going at that distance....but it was impressive.

The current round leaves the 10.5" barrel at roughly 2500fps and has a BC of 0.267. This puts it in the neighborhood of 1600fps at 325 yards.

[WS6]

Very nice. Got any close ups of the expanded projectile? Where did you get the new production stuff? I have some .223 64gr Gold Dots and its loaded in dingy looking brass.

[polymorpheous]

Is this the stuff that SGAmmo has in stock?
Similar?

I picked up some 5.56mm Gold Dots when it was in stock.
Wish I would have picked up more.

[WS6]

Is this the stuff that SGAmmo has in stock?
Similar?

I picked up some 5.56mm Gold Dots when it was in stock.
Wish I would have picked up more.

SGA has the 55gr flavor in stock. I tested product # 24448, they have # 24446. I do not know anything other than that about their product, what casings are used, what year/month it was made, etc.