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    Thin vs. Thick rails?

    I previously was not that happy with my Vltor VIS using the Thumb-over-bore hold using magpul ladders. It was too square.

    Then I bought some LaRue index clips, and all of that changed.

    I previously had tried the Magpul AFG, but did not like the angle of my wrist. It seemed unnatural and fatigue inducing.

    I ended up using my LaRue FUG and placing 3 fingers on it, like a hand-stop/VFG combo kindof. The angle worked better for me than the AFG.

    Now, with the LaRue clips, I can use thumb-over bore. The rail is comfortable to grab with them, and it's larger than some of the very skinny rails out there.

    What advantage does a skinny rail have?

    I tried grabbing a broom handle, and it was much more uncomfortable due to my hand closing further around it. It seems the more the rail fills my hand, the less awkward stress is placed on my wrist.

    Am I weird and unique, or are other people appreciative of the more medium size rails than the very thin one's?

    I tend to be able to bench and dead-lift more weight/reps with a thicker bar at the gym, as well, I have noticed. I use my forearms less and the other muscles (chest, lat, tri, etc) more and my grip fatigues much slower. That's what got me to thinking about my M4, from this angle.
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    My grip strength isnt an issue... so I can deadlift the same amount whether its a skinny or thicker bar.... if you've ever used a "fat bar" i'm sure your deadlift would go down!

    That being said, I feel like my grip worsens the wider my hand gets.... therefore, I prefer a skinnier handguard (or bar for that matter). Obviously enough force isnt produced by an AR15 to provide grip issues, but a smaller handguard just feels more secure.

    Definitely interested in others responses tho.
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    Ya gotta go with what works for you. Myself, I've always preferred slender forearms
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    I like your skinny bar fat bar analogy. It's the damn truth too!

    I'm in agreance with you as well...I prefer skinnier rails as opposed to the fatter ones. I personally get a tighter, more crontrollable grip on the rifle itself when it has a skinnier rail.

    One of the reasons I prefer the URX III and DD RIS II rails.


    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarge View Post
    My grip strength isnt an issue... so I can deadlift the same amount whether its a skinny or thicker bar.... if you've ever used a "fat bar" i'm sure your deadlift would go down!

    That being said, I feel like my grip worsens the wider my hand gets.... therefore, I prefer a skinnier handguard (or bar for that matter). Obviously enough force isnt produced by an AR15 to provide grip issues, but a smaller handguard just feels more secure.

    Definitely interested in others responses tho.

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    It's more the angle the forend bends my wrist at when it's so skinny that bothers me. Never did have bendy wrists. I cannot do clean and press very much because of it.

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    I have long forearms, so powercleans and clean and jerk/press are tough for me to do with perfect form.

    I can hang on to any AR15 though.

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    Are you talking about using the "scorpion" forearm grab technique?

    LaRetard's index clips do wonders for helping out the retarded dimensions of a lot of these rails.

    They've saved my FAT MI shit rail, and My I beam DD light rail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Are you talking about using the "scorpion" forearm grab technique?

    LaRetard's index clips do wonders for helping out the retarded dimensions of a lot of these rails.

    They've saved my FAT MI shit rail, and My I beam DD light rail.
    I don't know, but it looks like I'm marching to my own drummer on this one. Whatever the case, those clips are nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I don't know, but it looks like I'm marching to my own drummer on this one. Whatever the case, those clips are nice.
    Yep. I won't buy another kind of rail cover again.

    I tried the Chinese knock offs in hopes that I could avoid giving LaRue any business. But they weren't the same material and quality....
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Yep. I won't buy another kind of rail cover again.

    I tried the Chinese knock offs in hopes that I could avoid giving LaRue any business. But they weren't the same material and quality....
    I don't like giving him any of my $$ either, but if his gear is the best for the task at hand for me, I don't let personal disgust for the maker get in the way of the gear. Just think of it this way...there are plenty of good people who work there that get more of the $$ combined than he does for each purchase.

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