Just purchased today. Made by Bush Monkey Knives outta Ft Worth. Thick O-1 steel with a RIDICOULOUSLY sharp edge. Excellent craftsmanship from a very nice gentleman.
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Just purchased today. Made by Bush Monkey Knives outta Ft Worth. Thick O-1 steel with a RIDICOULOUSLY sharp edge. Excellent craftsmanship from a very nice gentleman.
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Looks nice! What did it cost you?
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He assembles kit knives, grinds an edge, and stamps them with his logo. I hope you weren't told you were getting a custom knife. Not to say they are not nice knives, but you're paying someone to build a kit knife for you, with minimal "custom" work.
The fact that he posts a "Bush Monkey Derangement Syndrome" section on his website where he lists and is proud to have been banned from Blade Forums, USN, etc. kinda makes me wary.
I hope the knife works well for you though, at least that you get your worth out of it.
I'm not cool. I just do this stuff for fun.
I don't have a dog in this fight and am a novice in true custom knives. I own several Emerson's, Benchmades, and a Surefire knife. I have thought of getting a custom at some point and that is why I ask this question. I have never heard of Bush Monkey and I do not frequent the forums that he has been banned from, but I just went to his web site and checked out his step by step creation of his Chupacabra knife. How is this not a custom build? I mean I have a hard time listening to everyone by AR parts and put them together and then call it a custom build, but what I saw on the website was a whole lot more involved than that.
I am not trying to come across as a smart aleck or take sides, but I am trying to learn.
Last edited by Breadman; 09-15-12 at 04:23. Reason: spelling error
I have seen several of his knives posted on another forum (TOS) and it looks as though he is building these through the stock removal method. I would not call those a "kit knife".
If you have information to the contrary I would be interested in seeing it. I prefer a bevel grind to the chissel but other than that his looks good to go.
I guess the "stock removal" method of taking a pre-shaped blank and chucking it up in a jig and running it over a belt sander, adding some pre-cut handles, constitutes custom these days. He's been called out and evidence was laid out on several forums. One even had part numbers from supply companies for the entire knife.
I'm not saying his knives are bad knives, but they are not custom in the same way that traditionally custom knives are considered.
There's an example on one of the forums where he even states he "engineers knives from parts I procure." Another, "I have come to the conclusion that if you are "knifemakers" then I am most certainly NOT a "knifemaker."
Couple more direct quotes from the owner:
"Nearly every knife is made up of parts made by different people. Steel maker, rivet or bolt maker, handle material maker, blade maker, tubing maker, brass maker, adhesive maker...Should a knifemaker give credit to every person who made every part of the knife? Should that list be stamped on the blade like movie credits? Alphabetical order or should the most important component be first? Is the blade more important than the handle - try using a blade with no handle;-)" (in reference to him passing off a Terzuola blade as his own)
"I would like to know how an entire knife made by a "bladesmith" performs any different from a knife made by someone else building a knife around the same blade"
"I clearly state that I do not make most of my blades....." (in reference to something he bought, even though he originally stated he actually made it from a Sawzall blade)
"why I would want to grind steel if a perfectly good blade can be procured easily - that would be silly." Sure, as long as you're forthcoming with your customers about that fact.
Now while none of that necessarily influences the quality of the work produced, I certainly hesitate to call what he does custom. In the same way that any Red Jacket hack can bolt whatever parts onto an AR and call it custom, I would not. His attitude is very LaRue like, lots of obfuscation, very little in the way of simply stating facts.
Again, if his blades function, great, but calling them custom, and charging what he does for them, is pretty lamesauce.
Last edited by JohnnyC; 09-15-12 at 23:55. Reason: horses mouth
I'm not cool. I just do this stuff for fun.
No I think you and I have the same definiation of stock removal method. Thank you for the information.
To the OP, I think you have a nice knife there and the O-1 steel should serve you well. If I were you I would take it out in the woods and use it.
I have no dog in this fight.
How do you think other knifemakers grind knives? It's pretty standard to have blanks cut from a template using a water jet and then 'running it over a belt sander.'That's stock removal (notice no quotation marks implying it's not real stock removal.) With the exception of a jig and cooler grinds, how does, say, a Strider differ from one of these knives? (In fact, based on the photos on is website, it looks like this guy uses his own bandsaw to rough out the blades. Makes no difference to me.)
I think the guy originally probably did make some kit knives based on what I've read. Some of those quotes you pulled go back a while when he was feuding on the knife makers' forums. I think he's moved on to his own designs and his current stuff is original. I'm not big on scandi grinds (it's scandi, not chisel), but it's a cool looking knife.
Last edited by comprido; 09-17-12 at 00:30.
Gorgeous edge
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