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    If your going to buy something for 700- 900 why make it crap? I dunno my thoughts and this is just me if I am spending 700-900 I can save, sell or budget another 200-500 to get a great reputable AR like the Colt or the DD... Or like a previous poster wrote buy a full upper and full lower. I was talked out of a STAG but I still like their complete lowers. I was only talked out because of the specifics of what I wanted and the guy who schooled me on my first AR directed me to the DD..

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    A quality Ar-15 under a $1000 is plausible. I would look at either colt or lmt. Gunbroker is a good source to find great deals on used or even new rifles. I bought a NIB lmt lower for 360 shipped and a complete lmt upper for $600. The total was just under $1000. Optics can be had at a later date, practice with iron sights to gain the fundamentals. Good luck

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    Just re-hashing what's been said, but I also have a friend in the market for an evil black gun. His problem is, he wants to join the rifleman's club I belong to and participate in competition. This demands high volumes of fire, both for practice and during matches, and also demands reliability if you want to compete. Malfunctions do not lead to winning, unfortunately. Why is that a problem? He's trying to get out of it cheap, and I'll tell you what I've told him:

    I can get him a lightly used rifle or carbine length for 650-700. PSA, Spikes, and their lot crop up constantly on a local firearms forum. Granted, it saves you 300 bucks over a Colt. My argument (with him) is: How hard is it to save 300 bucks, be patient, and get a rifle that's almost guaranteed to run perfectly out of the box, sending a ton of money downrange before it needs anything maintenance-wise, and should he decide he wants to sell, will be gone almost immediately for nearly what he paid for it?

    OR

    Save 200 or 300 bucks and get something you're not sure will run or not, and you're going to either

    A- have a hard time getting rid of if you want to upgrade or just get out of it

    or B- have a failure in a sub-par part (bcg for instance) and be almost as deep financially after replacement as if you'd purchased the Colt or BCM to start with.

    Just food for thought. I'm by no means bashing the cheaper rifles, I simply look at it from my wallet's perspective. I'd rather spend a bit more up front and have something that gives me options (ie resale value) than save money and be stuck with a rifle I'm not happy with.

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    On a Budget

    I would Call the folks at Palmento State and start with one of their deal of the day uppers and just let things snowball from there. I have not owned a PSA but two of my shooting buddies have built PSAs and they run like champs.

    Or

    Shop the EE for a bcm/colt upper and build a lower.

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    I'm not going to lie, when one of my best friends told us all that he was going to buy the M&P Sport, we all looked at him like he was an idiot. We all begged him to save his money and get something a little better.

    Well, he ended up getting one. I will be the first to admit that I was wrong. I was REALLY impressed with what you could do with the sport. He used PMC Bronze 55gr to break it in, and after about 500 rounds he started to try wolf through it and he has never had a hiccup with it. It's really accurate and again, it hasn't jammed on him after his first 150 rounds.

    So I would say as long as you keep that thing spotless and are a little patient with the first 100 rounds or so, you would find that you have a decent gun for $600-$700. And this is coming from a guy that has owned Noveske's, Colts, Bushmasters, LWRC's, and POF's.

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    Well after doing some more talking with my little bro, we decided that the M&P sport is probably right for him. He's in Hawaii, on a very very tight budget and the range is over an hour drive away. So he won't be shooting much at all. With my discount, I can get a sport for $555 when they come back into stock. I know colts are better, but I don't think they're double-the-price better. If the sport shoots okay, then that's all he needs.

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    Try to remember that statement when the N. Koreans or Chinese are invading the little islands in the middle of nowhere to establish a supply base

    On a different note, I thought HI was stupid restrictive on EBRs?

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    EBR? Something battle rifle? No, they're not restrictive on type- but you do need a "permit to aquire" with photos/fingerprints/police station approval. Then when you do get one, you have to register it with them after a 14 day waiting period! Sucks too because in a state of emergency, they can confiscate (or try to) all weapons. At least they used to, but maybe they repealed that one. Can't remember. The price for living in paradise.


    http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimm17 View Post
    EBR? Something battle rifle? No, they're not restrictive on type- but you do need a "permit to aquire" with photos/fingerprints/police station approval. Then when you do get one, you have to register it with them after a 14 day waiting period! Sucks too because in a state of emergency, they can confiscate (or try to) all weapons. At least they used to, but maybe they repealed that one. Can't remember. The price for living in paradise.


    http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm
    Judging from the first 95% of your post I would submit that it is not paradise.
    " If i cannot be a good example Lord, let me be a terrible warning"

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle money bags View Post
    Judging from the first 95% of your post I would submit that it is not paradise.
    Ha! Well the weather is nice. I lived there 6 years (stationed twice). Much better to be back in the gun friendly state of Virginia.

    I also checked the laws in hawaii again- no mag limit of rifles, just handguns which are 10 rounds. Doing more than that is a class C Felony!

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