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    G&R Tactical Drill #1 & #2

    Per the request from a forum member, re-posting here.



    I am a big fan of timed drills (especially ones with accuracy requirements). One of my favorites is the 10/10/10 drill. I also like drills that have some sort of real world thought behind them. From talking to combat veterans, two points always come up. The first one is to get rounds into center mass (or largest part of the body). Second is that after about 3-4 rounds to the body (or one round to the head), the body or head has moved (considerably) and you probably are not going to be able to get too many more rounds into it. With this in mind, we designed our drill #1.

    Drill #1


    Distance: 10 yards

    Target: IDPA

    Mags: Two mags are needed. One with 4 rounds and the other with 1 round. Load the mag with 4 rounds into your pistol.

    Time: Must complete drill in under 8 seconds.

    Start: On beep, draw and fire 4 rounds into center "A" zone. Emergency reload and fire one to the head.

    Note: Rounds outside of the A zone, add 2 seconds to your time. Missed headshot is automatic fail. Drill is meant to be shot COLD!!!


    Level 2 of this drill uses the NRA B-8 target instead of the IDPA "A" zone. Rounds outside the black circle, add 2 seconds to your time. Time and distance remain the same.


    Our second drill focuses on mag changes, but with a twist! With most mag change drills, the shooter knows how many rounds are in the gun. Because of this, the shooter can anticipate when the gun will run out of ammo. This means that they are not surprised by it. From real world feedback, the only reason you know that your gun is out of ammo is because it has stopped making a loud noise when you pull the trigger!

    Drill #2


    Distance: 10 yards

    Target: IDPA

    Mags: Three mags are needed. One with 3 rounds, one with 2 rounds and one with 1 round. Jumble the three mags and do not look at how many rounds are in them. Insert any one of the three mags into your pistol. Put the other two mags into your mag carrier.

    Time: Must complete drill in under 11 seconds.

    Start: On beep, draw and fire pistol at center "A" zone till you get a slide lock. Perform an emergency reload and continue till you burn through all your mags.

    Note: Rounds outside of the A zone, add 2 seconds to your time. This drill is meant to be shot COLD!!!


    Level 2 of this drill uses the NRA B-8 target instead of the IDPA "A" zone. Rounds outside the black circle, add 2 seconds to your time. Time and distance remain the same.


    Video of drills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL-VV8UN4Gs






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    Sounds like a set good drills, I like the switching up mags so you dont know the rnd count. A friend of mine and I noticed this phenomenon when doing the hack standards. At that point we began to load each others mags with varied round count sometimes threw in an empty case to simulate malfunctions. Really humbles one that thinks there reloads are lighting smooth it did for me and him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns-up.50 View Post
    Sounds like a set good drills, I like the switching up mags so you dont know the rnd count. A friend of mine and I noticed this phenomenon when doing the hack standards. At that point we began to load each others mags with varied round count sometimes threw in an empty case to simulate malfunctions. Really humbles one that thinks there reloads are lighting smooth it did for me and him.
    This is always a good idea I think (having other people load your mags). It removes the "gaming" BS out of a drill.


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    Hey Grant,, would you consider making a companion video that explains in detail the technical skills / procedures to be able to perform the drill.

    IOW, a buzzer to buzzer ideal procedure broken down for a basic shooter to develop the proper mindset and mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Hey Grant,, would you consider making a companion video that explains in detail the technical skills / procedures to be able to perform the drill.

    IOW, a buzzer to buzzer ideal procedure broken down for a basic shooter to develop the proper mindset and mechanics.

    TB

    To be honest, you cannot learn to shoot from a video (you need direct interaction from a good instructor). Since you are in VA, there is a VSM instructor in your State. Get in touch with him for assistance.

    Link to his next class: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=107818


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    To be honest, you cannot learn to shoot from a video (you need direct interaction from a good instructor). Since you are in VA, there is a VSM instructor in your State. Get in touch with him for assistance.

    Link to his next class: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=107818


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    You can't? Why not?


    All those videos from Thunder Ranch and big name shooters are a waste????
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    Videos can be a good supplement for people who have a good grasp of the fundamentals. They can never be a replacement for proper training with a qualified instructor. The best feedback comes from an instructor who watches the shooter, and identifes shooter error that way; flinching, slapping the trigger, blinking, improper grip etc etc.

    For beginning shooters with no formal training, watching videos will most likely result in them only emulating the techniques being taught, without properly understanding the correct way to apply them, and ingraining bad habits.
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    Thing with videos as opposed to instructors is there is no feedback.

    If you think about the LEARN acronym videos are short in the building department. There is also possible issues with the understanding part as well since a video might not have the clarification that a particular individual requires.

    I will say it can be done but its not like everyone can do it or do it correctly. Also even if someone can do it with one video, they might not be able to do it with another.
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    I guess I've been fooled. I know several good shooters who have never had a day of formal training in their life. They showed at the range one day with a pistol, found some guys that seem to shoot well and jumped in. Two are GMs in Limited and Production respectively.
    Come to think of it...I did too....




    But then I don't sell training even though I've been an LE trainer for 24 years and I contract for the Gov't now.....

    I've learned some gunsmithing and other skills from videos that should have been more technically difficult than ......shooting.
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    Its not like it is impossible. Always got natural athleticism, high intelligence that leads to correct interpretation, good analysis skills, etc.

    Joe Shmoe on the other hand often needs to be spoon fed and in specific ways, which is also why not everyone is capable of being an instructor despite personal skill and knowledge.
    Luck is awesome. The more proficient you are at what you do the luckier you seem to be.

    Do what you love and love what you do.

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