G&R Tactical Drill #1 & #2

[Axcelea]

To use the drills given by Grant.

Person sees it and then goes to emulate it but the time is bad. They assume the draw is fine but know the speed at which follow up shots is done is poor so they deal with the recoil better and now shots are low. To bring up the shots they just have to aim high. Its still not as fast as most of those around them but its passing now.

Instructor watches them from square one. Time is bad. Instructor sees a flaw in the grip and only focuses on correcting that. Person ends up with a better time.

If someone has the analytic ability they might of found out the cause from square one and not needed the instructor. If they had the right fundamentals from the beginning then probably wouldn't of likely happened at all.

There is also more extreme cases where people need to be told what the a-zone is, how to draw half way decent in the first place, etc.

[C4IGrant]

You can't? Why not?


All those videos from Thunder Ranch and big name shooters are a waste????

First, if you are a NEW shooter, you really cannot learn the fundamentals via a video IMHO.

Second, more experienced shooters (that have received formal training) can get something from a video I think. How much is a question that I cannot answer.

Third, time. I don't have it. So doing a long video, editing it, etc just isn't gong to happen (sorry).

Lastly, please do not derail my thread with your interests in videos.





C4

[C4IGrant]

Videos can be a good supplement for people who have a good grasp of the fundamentals. They can never be a replacement for proper training with a qualified instructor. The best feedback comes from an instructor who watches the shooter, and identifes shooter error that way; flinching, slapping the trigger, blinking, improper grip etc etc.

For beginning shooters with no formal training, watching videos will most likely result in them only emulating the techniques being taught, without properly understanding the correct way to apply them, and ingraining bad habits.

Bingo!



C4

[Axcelea]

Hey Grant, before I forget.

Am I to assume this is an open carry drill?

If it is, what would be reasonable time to add for concealment.

[tb-av]

@Grant .... I have been meaning to go to that class. May have to try the one in Dec. I never even noticed the Sept. one being offered.

Yes, I realize now, that doing a quality instructional video would likely take more time than what you have available. I simply thought it was an interesting drill and would be cool to have a detailed "how-to" attached to it. engaged my keyboard before my brain, I suppose.

Didn't mean to derail things here.

[C4IGrant]

Hey Grant, before I forget.

Am I to assume this is an open carry drill?

If it is, what would be reasonable time to add for concealment.

Yes open carry. Level 3 of the drill is shooting it from concealed. No time adjustment.


C4

[Arctic1]

Never mind.

[tb-av]

Ok, here's a question specific to the drill.

Is there a technique or mindset that one should employ to facilitate realizing that the mag is empty and slide is locked back?

I assume that is a main aspect of this drill. I find myself often not realizing I have fired all the rounds. Are there any "tricks of the trade" to become aware of needing a mag change sooner?

TB

[glocktogo]

Ok, here's a question specific to the drill.

Is there a technique or mindset that one should employ to facilitate realizing that the mag is empty and slide is locked back?

I assume that is a main aspect of this drill. I find myself often not realizing I have fired all the rounds. Are there any "tricks of the trade" to become aware of needing a mag change sooner?

TB

Not Grant, but from my experience, it's additional experience that gets you to the point you recognize a locked back slide without waiting to see it. The slide weight first transfers to the rear, increasing front sight lift. When the slide goes back forward, the weight transfer helps pull the front sight back on target. When you've watched and felt it happen hundreds to thousands of times, it just becomes instinctive.

It's the same way with an AR or just about any autoloader. You just have to be attuned to the signals it's sending you.

[Guns-up.50]

Ok, here's a question specific to the drill.

Is there a technique or mindset that one should employ to facilitate realizing that the mag is empty and slide is locked back?

I assume that is a main aspect of this drill. I find myself often not realizing I have fired all the rounds. Are there any "tricks of the trade" to become aware of needing a mag change sooner?

TB

I hope I'm not intruding, but I think that is the point of the drill, the feel of the empty gun is the indicator for the needed reload. We all anticipate re-loads when doing drills this preps our mind for the re-load. In a fight you(we) do not focus on how many shots we have taken and the empty gun will take us by surprise. The drill so far is the closest thing I have seen to replicating that surprise.
Sorry glocktogo I was posting when you were didnt mean to copy ya