Inexpensive red dot

[yossarian42]

I've had some primary arms stuff and a bushnell trs 25. IMO I like the primary arms better. The dot is more crisp and you have more mount options with it's removable base. Customer service is also good and at less than 100 bucks I just don't know if something like a vortex sparc is worth the extra money for what you need it for. I have never owned a vortex, but at their price point I'd rather step up to aimpoint. Primary arms I know has at least a 1 year replacement warranty that I know of.


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[clmarshall21]

When deciding between SPARC or the PA Micro, the Primary Arms rep suggested the SPARC over the Micro for my purposes. I explained to him that it would mostly likely get wet and cold and possibly even dropped in the mud (my purpose for the optic was hunting). If your intended purpose is anything besides fun shooting/hunting, you would be wise to start with the Aimpoint and not look back. The battery life alone is a feature that none of the other options can compete with (comes in handy when you want to leave the sight on daily/nightly for HD). The Vortex battery life is decent but it automatically shuts itself off after 6hrs. I am pleased with my SPARC for what I use it for. However, it is not abused with high round counts or training classes or any type of serious use. It is on a fun gun/hunting rifle. Keep in mind, if you prefer a RDS that is knob operated (like the Aimpoint) you will not like the SPARC.

[Singlestack Wonder]

For cheap chicom optics, the topic would be better addressed at TOS.

[lifebreath]

I'd stick with irons and save my money until I could get what I what. Irons are fast and fun to use. If dead set on a RDS NOW, I'd look for a used Aimpoint on the EE and sell for about what you paid when you want to change.

[xrayoneone]

Once again save your money!

Example
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=113222

I do not know this gentleman but that is a good price on a great optic. So why would somebody spend money on an ok optic when they can get a great one?

[mkmckinley]

Just shoot irons until you can afford a real sight. Even if you can only save $50 a month that's only another 4 months and you'll actually have something worthwhile.

[gun71530]

Stick with irons until you decide what optic you want and you have the money.

[Dirk Williams]

I purchased two Vortexs yesterday. Also have another T1 on order. Although the TIs are clearly better, there's nothing wrong with the vortex for 150.00.

I'll give the Vortexs as gifts to the guys with the DPMS rifles next season. They will think I'm a swell friend.

[camoman]

I own a sparc, and I tried a pa micro, I can say for sure the sparc is defiantly worth the extra money. I put all of my rds through a few tests, before I deem them worthy. The pa micro didn't pass the submerged in the bucket test, in fact it failed within the first five minutes (fogged up and water in the tube) The sparc lasted over 10 hours, until I pulled it out, no fog, no moisture in the tube....that alone tells me all I needed to know about the difference in quality between the two. My strikefire passed the same test, so did my trs 25, and of course my comp m3.

[platoonDaddy]

Article from Guns America on budget Optics, I like the Vortex Strikefire.

Amazon has them for $169. The Strikefire will work on rifles & shotguns. Purchasing the Hunt (low profile mount) for my Benelli M4.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/budg...for-the-ar-15/