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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You shouldn't be (suprised). Any company that wins the contract cannot sell an AR15 to the general public. That is why so many companies backed out of the bid.



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    Are you serious? I bet it wouldn't take long for clones to start popping up from ever manufacturer though.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You shouldn't be (suprised). Any company that wins the contract cannot sell an AR15 to the general public. That is why so many companies backed out of the bid.



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    Nevermind. That makes sense. How the hell does Colt get away with it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slamd095 View Post
    Just a thought and question...

    What is the benefit of of providing for the military. You are taking your self out of the market.
    If you have NEVER (really) sold AR's to the public, what did you care?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    Are you serious? I bet it wouldn't take long for clones to start popping up from ever manufacturer though.
    Yes. It is part of the deal when you sign for the TDP.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    Nevermind. That makes sense. How the hell does Colt get away with it then?
    They OWN the TDP for the M4 and M16.


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    Since a lot of you don't seem to know how these contracts work, I will let you in on another "shocker." FN has been paying Colt royalties on the M16 since day one and will NOW be paying them royalties on the M4.


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    [QUOTE=C4IGrant;1560745]You shouldn't be (suprised). Any company that wins the contract cannot sell an AR15 to the general public. That is why so many companies backed out of the bid.

    Sorry if I'm being ignorant but why is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Since a lot of you don't seem to know how these contracts work, I will let you in on another "shocker." FN has been paying Colt royalties on the M16 since day one and will NOW be paying them royalties on the M4.


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    I knew that. So does the winning company turn over their TDP to the military? Seems like a pretty shitty deal to me.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    [QUOTE=mattg1024;1560789]
    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You shouldn't be (suprised). Any company that wins the contract cannot sell an AR15 to the general public. That is why so many companies backed out of the bid.

    Sorry if I'm being ignorant but why is this?
    Because they are only allowed to use the TDP to make guns for the Govt (not the commercial market).



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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    I knew that. So does the winning company turn over their TDP to the military? Seems like a pretty shitty deal to me.
    Turn over? No. The Govt (in 2012) got the right to be able to give companies the TDP so that they could bid on a M4 contract. The company that wins (less Colt) has to pay a royalty (to Colt) on each gun (I believe).


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