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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggLee71 View Post
    Well as a Colt fan, maybe a good byproduct of FN being awarded the M4 contract is the public may now get more of Colts "attention". FN makes a fine product and it would be nice to see them introduce an M4 for public consumption as well.
    They cannot (which is why you have never seen a Civy M16 out of them).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wa22ioR View Post
    Interesting! I like Colt, but I like FN as well. Wish Colt would have won the contract again, but FN makes great products as well. While overseas, my FN weapons were always good to go. Just wonder what Colt will do now.
    Continue to work on all their other contracts.

    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    Honestly was anyone really surprised about this? FN already is doing M16's so naturally the M4 was next.

    What i am intrigued about is what effect this will have on the IC competition with the SCAR.
    Given the fact that the SCAR doesn't offer any worthwhile advantages over the M4A1, and that they are now $600 per M4A1.....the IC is unlikely to happen until something worth spending all that money comes along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Isn't it the opposite way with the 240? FN designed it and holds the tdp, but Colt has the contract?
    Yes it is.

    So will Colt still be heading up upgrades on the M4?
    Last edited by sinlessorrow; 02-23-13 at 22:59.
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    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    I'm surprised KAC didn't put a bid out for the M4 contract. It'd be cool to see some. Even if they'd be exactly the same as the Colt or FN guns. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    I'm surprised KAC didn't put a bid out for the M4 contract. It'd be cool to see some. Even if they'd be exactly the same as the Colt or FN guns. Lol.
    Frankly, I don't think they could get close to the low per unit price FN did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    They cannot (which is why you have never seen a Civy M16 out of them).


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    Grant, is there a reason as to why FN couldn't release an M4/Ar-15 to the civvy market? Is there a law if some sort or is is just a lack of interest on the part of the manufacturer? I guess in the current situation we have to be happy for what we have available but it would be nice to have another high quality AR provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggLee71 View Post
    Grant, is there a reason as to why FN couldn't release an M4/Ar-15 to the civvy market? Is there a law or is is just a lack of interest on the part of the manufacturer? I guess in the current situation we have to be happy for what we have available but it would be nice to have another high quality AR provider.
    I believe it was part of their contract. They can produce the guns for the military, but they are prohibited from selling to the civilian market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    I'm surprised KAC didn't put a bid out for the M4 contract. It'd be cool to see some. Even if they'd be exactly the same as the Colt or FN guns. Lol.
    They are in the running for the FRAK which I can easily see them winning

    Quote Originally Posted by BiggLee71 View Post
    Grant, is there a reason as to why FN couldn't release an M4/Ar-15 to the civvy market? Is there a law if some sort or is is just a lack of interest on the part of the manufacturer? I guess in the current situation we have to be happy for what we have available but it would be nice to have another high quality AR provider.
    Can't, its a part of their contract and Colt owning the TDP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post

    http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/ar...ntract-fn.html

    Army Awards New M4/M4A1 Contract to FN

    by Matthew Cox on February 23, 2013 ·


    FN Manufacturing has outbid Remington Arms Company and Colt Defense LLC., to win a contract worth just under $77 million to make M4A1s for the U.S. Army, according to an industry source. The award notice was posted on Federal Business Opportunities on Feb. 22 with an initial value of $9,370,615.
    What is the spec on these? Full-blown SOCOM type with RISII and heavy barrel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wild_wild_wes View Post
    What is the spec on these? Full-blown SOCOM type with RISII and heavy barrel?
    RIS II is a SOPMOD package item. These will initially be M4A1's with the RAS, once the FRAK finishes and is selected they will get their own FF rail.

    SOCOM profile barrel
    ambi selector
    auto FCG

    are what set it apart from the M4
    Last edited by sinlessorrow; 02-24-13 at 01:27.
    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    What I want to see is the military finally get rid of the regarded ass charging handle and get BCM Gunfighters. I am really liking the ambi Gunfighter a lot. I know I am asking too much though.



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