The going retail is about $200 lower than the retail price listed on Browe's website.Originally Posted by JBecker 72
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The going retail is about $200 lower than the retail price listed on Browe's website.
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Anything you switch is always going to be slower than any dual optic setup. The only reason to run any type of variable scope, be it an Elcan style or a more typical 1-4x is to fit into some rule bracket for competition or by policy.
For how light its suppose to be, made out of titanium and all, its not really lighter than an LED ACOG.
Last edited by bp7178; 10-13-12 at 17:21.
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Two things going against this setup for a SHTF rifle:
1. The DR sight.
2. The DR sight.
Last edited by Singlestack Wonder; 10-13-12 at 19:21.
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They probably didn't want to go with a RMR.
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Did I ever claim this was a SHTF rifle? That would be my AK.
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Curious: what's so bad about the dr optic? I have a dr mount for a ta33 and was thinking about picking one up, used of course
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I don't have too much of an issue with it, other than the fact that it sucks to actually use because of the full retard chin weld you need to use it. I had one on an ACOG TA31-ECOSG.
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There's a reason the dr is not widely seen on SHTF rifles.
If ones needs a miniature rds, the Trijicon RMR has proven itself.
Do some research.
Last edited by Singlestack Wonder; 10-14-12 at 21:55.
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To me the TA33 is the most useable of the different ACOG's as a jack of all trades. If you're going to make it larger you might as well get a TA01 or TA31 of some sort.
Also to the OP I've used a TA31ECOS and hated it. A lot of people think it's a great idea and end up dumping them because of the size. Something I noticed was the mini RDS ended up getting banged around, a lot. The 3 or 9 oclock mount on a 1-4 alleviates some of this. Also with the main site zeroed at 100 and the mini at 50 you may find that the main site, whether ACOG or BROWE is better and faster because of cheek weld and fit than the mini at 50 yards. To me it's a 25 and in site when mounted way up there. YMMV.
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There are some differences between the two products. Trijicon picked up the DOCTER line and sold over 10,000 DOCTER II plus sights to the US SOCOM. After those were fielded the US SOCOM put out a tender for 25K MRD sights.There's a reason the dr is not widely seen on SHTF rifles.
If ones needs a miniature rds, the Trijicon RMR has proven itself.
Do some research.
They basically spec out a DOCTER sight, but requested the following improvements:
Improved positive click adjusters
Water proof to 66ft
Battery that could replaced without removing the sight
Stronger housing
On/off switch
Night vision mode
Required to fit the DOCTER Footprint (because they already own 10k mounts)
Smaller dot, 2 MOA
Trijicon created the RMR, but it didnt meet all the requirements. Its only improvement was the stronger housing (forged aluminum) and positive click adjusters. DOCTER created the DOCTER III which had a better adjustment system, water proof, stronger housing, adjuster reticle with an on/off. The winner of the contract was Insight MRDS, they were able to build the MRDS that met all the requirements. The only problem with the MRDS is that its expensive. Once Trijicon created the RMR they dumped the DOCTER line along with the SHIELD (J-Point) line.
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