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    M16A?

    Just a few days ago I saw an article online- forgot where- about the future of the M16A4/M4 in USMC service. The officer interviewed stated that the -A4 with its 20" barrel would remain the standard service weapon, not like the Armys move to an all-M4 issue.

    He said the Corps was looking at the following options: heavy barrel, telestock, free-flating barrel, and adjustable gas system for use with supressor.

    What do you think of that? And more importantly, has anyone done a pre-clone yet? If so, let's see it!
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    I think the current barrel is just fine. Out of those options listed, they should go with the collapsable stock (A5).

    If they went with a free floated forend rail, it would undoubtedly be a quad rail. Too much real-estate. Too heavy. If they went with a slim stripped forend and allowed marines to attach rail segments where they wanted them, that would be ok.


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    I don't understand the attachment to the 20" barrel, especially with 18" Mk12s as an issue waepon.

    I guess it is asking too much for our system to think in terms of anything other than 14.5 and 20 (rolls eyes)...
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    Well yeah, a 20" is pretty old school.

    But if they're going forward with it, then at least give the troops an adjustable LOP


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    Quote Originally Posted by SMETNA View Post
    I think the current barrel is just fine. Out of those options listed, they should go with the collapsable stock (A5).

    If they went with a free floated forend rail, it would undoubtedly be a quad rail. Too much real-estate. Too heavy. If they went with a slim stripped forend and allowed marines to attach rail segments where they wanted them, that would be ok.


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    There's plenty of light weight free float options available for the Corps to look at. The easiest being a DD Omega.

    While I'd love to see a modular tube style handguard implemented, there's just more parts to lose. I've seen plenty of KAC panels get lost by marines.

    Quote Originally Posted by wild_wild_wes View Post
    I don't understand the attachment to the 20" barrel, especially with 18" Mk12s as an issue waepon.

    I guess it is asking too much for our system to think in terms of anything other than 14.5 and 20 (rolls eyes)...
    There's probably a few reasons for the attachment to the 20" barrel.
    5.56 is optimal out of a 20" as far as velocity for most rounds. Although I'm sure 18" would be close enough for it to not matter.

    The Marine Corps is usually short on money and it would be a hell of lot cheaper to work around the current barrels. While the 18" SS Douglas barrels used in the MK12s are a lot better as far as accuracy, I'm going to assume they're a lot more expensive.

    I'm sure there's also at least a few people in the chain who are just resistant to change as far as nostalgia. Especially with the whole "Every Marine a rifleman" doctrine, I doubt we'll be seeing a move from the longer barrels for the majority of the Corps.
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    I think detachable rail segments would not be a good idea. In the military, everything gets lost, so that would never work. Staying with the M16 for all troops is fine, but specialized units will get M4's or whatever else they wanted.

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    As a tax payer, you guys are killin me with all the stuff getting lost talk.


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    Last I read they are sticking withthe M16 but are working on a PiP that includes a collapsing stock and a FF foreend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMETNA View Post
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    If the Marine Corps went with one of those Homo match boy tubes, I'd shit myself.

    A little more meat on the barrel wouldn't be too bad.. as long as it wasn't a full HBAR profile. I can't get used to how light the Govt profile 20 inch FNMI barrel is on my A2 rifle. It just feels weird.
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