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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    The roll marks on their lower or the parts on their gun??? I occasionally stick my head into the custom build forum, AR pic thread, etc and when I see a pirate, a zombie, bio hazard symbol or two male organs trying to crush a bug I immediately think the following things about the owner:

    1. Owns an AR because "it is cool!"
    2. Has never attended professional taught training class.
    3. Probably has no idea what they are talking about.
    4. Thinks that Wolf and Tula makes "good" ammo.
    5. Thinks that it is possible that there will actually be a zombie apocalypse.


    These are just some of the thoughts that run through my head. I know that stereo types are wrong and have friends that own one of these lowers and they DO attend training and are intelligent people that do not fantasize about shooting the undead.

    Am I alone on this??? Just curious if anyone else judges people by their lower choice.

    *Please don't send me hate mail because I insulted your lower of choice.



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    Wow, I thought you were a little more professional than that. You basically just put down anyone who owns any Spikes gear. If some random member said something like that no one would care but you sell people gear and give advice. This is a hobby for most people and even if it isn't who says you can't have some fun. It's not like Spikes puts out crap. I'm amazed you just put down a large percentage of your customers. Oh and if you see two penises on the logo you gotta really be looking... have to wonder what's going on in people's minds that see that
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Speaking of people that don't shoot, but are thought to shoot a lot is LE! The majority of the LE around me shoot 62rds a year (because they have too). Most Civy's think that Cops are Ninja's with a firearm. If they only knew!


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    Thank god this statement does not apply to my department. We have 16 scheduled range sessions a year, and there is virtually no limit on the number of rounds we shoot during those sessions. Furthermore our training is reality based, and emphasizes weapon manipulation from numerous unconventional positions.
    "You have never lived until you have almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected will never know." - Written by an unknown soldier in Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I'm attending my first civilian carbine class later this month. I'll probably be wearing multicam pants, hat, combat shirt, and belt.

    I'm not an 11b or 03, but I did deploy and was issued most of my stuff. I'm going to wear it because I can't wear it stateside for duty and I don't want to mess up any clothes that I had to pay for out of my own pocket.

    But I'll be honest, I kind of fear everyone thinking I'm a mall ninja. As a non combat arms person, I'll probably have the skill of a mall ninja too.
    You volunteered for while our nation is at undeclared war on two fronts. They can **** off or ante up and join the military like you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devinsdad View Post
    You know, this sorta sterotype runs both directions. Lot of folks I see at local ranges bust out the Noveske, KAC, LaRue so people can look and validate them and their purchase with all the "nice rifle" comments. Just because you drop a shitton of coin on a rollmark, doesn't mean you can shoot any better (or worse) than the slob with a DPMS.
    I'll second that too- although cases of this seem to be in the extreme monority. I've personally run across WAY more show-offs in the el cheapo range than on the high end.

    Here's the way I see it- I don't care what's on the lower- for all I know the person got it stupid cheap, or lives in an area where that's all there was available.
    The only thing that really crosses my mind when looking at another person's build is 'how is the overall quality'? If they have a stupid/subpar lower, but the rest is great, who cares?
    Or at least I try to get a reason for why they used what they did before writing it off.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGut View Post
    I don't judge people's roll marks because I do not care what they are using. Be it zombies or pink lowers with dildo roll marks, just be safe around me at the range.
    Hate to say it, but if I had endless cash, I would totally buy a lower like that just for laughs. Imagine the look on peoples' faces when they figure out what the rollmark is.....

    Off topic-
    Did something change with Spikes' lowers?
    I was under the impression that their lowers were in the decent-quality budget range along with others such as PSA, Aero Precision, and such.
    A couple of posts at the beginning here seemed to suggest that they are now a no-go....
    Last edited by Jellybean; 10-16-12 at 18:54.
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    I judge others the same way that you do... but its mainly on the component and accessory choice. I could care less what roll-mark is on the lower. If its in spec, who cares, its a container for parts. If the gun is well-setup w/ a quality LPK, BCG, barrel, etc its likely going to run OK.

    A good example of what NOT to do would be a lightweight carbine with a grip-pod, $50 high magnification scope mounted on the carry handle, weapon light, and some chi-com rail. It's like the gun (and owner) are confused and suffering from some identity crisis. And after blowing all their money on over accessorizing, of course they can only afford steel-case ammo. And they are probably overweight and wearing some cheesy MMA t-shirt too.

    As much as I want to be a jerk to someone like this though, I resist. Because hopefully they'll keep shooting and come around to make better training and equipment choices one day. And maybe they have the stuff that they do because some idiot gunshop employee told them to buy it.

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    no, nothing changed with spikes lowers, people just hate spikes and thier business practices and logos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I'm attending my first civilian carbine class later this month. I'll probably be wearing multicam pants, hat, combat shirt, and belt.

    I'm not an 11b or 03, but I did deploy and was issued most of my stuff. I'm going to wear it because I can't wear it stateside for duty and I don't want to mess up any clothes that I had to pay for out of my own pocket.

    But I'll be honest, I kind of fear everyone thinking I'm a mall ninja. As a non combat arms person, I'll probably have the skill of a mall ninja too.
    They can ****ing skip rocks since you earned the uniform by volunteering for service while our country is at war.

    I never have seen a Spikes AR or lower fail. I've looked at their carbines and everything looked fine as far as materials and finish.

    I think the whole coloring and logs thing can be silly but we should not discourage other shooters at first blush.

    You volunteered for while our nation is at undeclared war on two fronts. They can **** off or ante up and join the military like you did.

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    Well, I am fairly new to shooting in general. I started off as one of those guys buying things for the wrong reasons. I was a single father so money was hard to come by. I ended up startngout with a Spikes lower with a RRA LPK. And it was a RRA/YHM upper. I thought I was bad ass. But after finding this site, I have a complete 180 way of thinking. I have learned so much from a lot of people here I have edcuated myself and I still have a lot to learn in regards to the AR platform. Now my rifle is completely different except it still sports the Spikes lower. But now it's paired with a VLTOR upper, BCM bcg, Timney trigger and just running TROY irons. Now the YHM upper ran just fine (for the shooting I do) for the 1000 rounds every few months. Just wanted to have something I can count on if SHTF. In the beginning, I never acted like I knew everything, those idiots will always be there. I hate them too. But I guess I'm just trying to say not all folks with these lowers are all idiots. Some of us just got started off on the wrong foot. Ok, my sobb story is over!
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    Quote Originally Posted by p22shooter30 View Post
    no, nothing changed with spikes lowers, people just hate spikes and thier business practices and logos.
    This.

    Even on this site people don't claim there is anything wrong with Spikes gear. Far from it.

    People find other reasons to dislike them, such as the way the rollmark looks, the fact that they make fake parts (suppressors/grenade launchers/whatever else) for customers interested in such things, and the public behavior of the company on the boards, particular TOS. On that last one I can't help but agree that that is a good reason to avoid buying from a company.

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    sorry for the double post
    Last edited by Hunting_Zombies; 10-16-12 at 20:07.
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