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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Speaking of people that don't shoot, but are thought to shoot a lot is LE! The majority of the LE around me shoot 62rds a year (because they have too). Most Civy's think that Cops are Ninja's with a firearm. If they only knew!


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    I've grown to learn this too Grant.

    Cops also think that they are good shooters just because they are cops. Not true at all, in fact, shooting in an ACTS competition, we had a cop swing a loaded (but safetied) AR behind him during transition (I was RO'ing behind him). Yikes. He said that is how he learned it in the academyl. Sorry for the guys behind him.

    Funny thing, the guy that got me into shooting is a cop. A few years later, I get out to shoot/train 3-4 times a week. He said he hasn't been out shooting (other than quals) for a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Actually the parts likely wouldn't fit in an OLY lower. They never have the holes in the right place.... let alone the right size...
    True, it was more the point I was trying to make than the actual parts I listed

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    I'm usually pretty forgiving of the mall ninja set, as long as the person doesn't stay mall ninja forever.

    I think there is a learning curve. A lot of gun buyers start out young and inexperienced and buy an assault rifle for the "cool" factor. If they didn't buy that first AR, maybe it would have been a dirt bike. I bought my first assault rifle partly because it looked like a machine gun (in my mind) and because I thought I'd be the only person at the range with one.

    I think most people, if they stick with it and develop, will go from owning expensive toys to being handlers of quality HD equipment. You buy a Luger with a mile-deep blue finish and fancy wood grips for how it looks and because it's the coolest of the cool. You buy a Glock because it shoots.

    Same with AR's. As a young buyer you get talked into the cheapest one you can afford or the one with the Punisher skull logo, then you spend another thou' bolting shit to it. One day you wake up and realize that KISS really works, and that it doesn't matter so much what your weapon looks like or how much you can attach to it as what you can do with it.

    So, staying with the learning curve you turn to competition and eventually training, and your journey to the dark side is complete.

    You look back with either disgust or humor on your mall ninja days, but you've improved , and that is the point. Maybe it took you longer because you weren't part of a sanctioned training program from day one, but you got there nonetheless.

    The ones I have disdain for are the ones who have owned guns for twenty years and still buy a gun because of its looks rather than its performance.

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    The lower and it's rollmark are the least important components in my opinion. I would rather have a "novelty" lower with quality parts installed, than a "normal" lower with shit parts.

    It's a tool, I don't really care what it says on the side.

    My primary AR is a BCM lower, and I have 2 quality uppers (BCM &Rainier). I'm building a new lower that happens to have a stupid rollmark on it. Oh well. I got it for a good price, and got it ftf . It's still going to have high quality parts throughout. It will serve as the primary lower for my precision AR build, and as a backup for my go-to carbine.

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    I tell people what is the Best in My opinion from the information I have learned Here .I have had people call me and say "what about this it is only 500 bucks"? and i will repeat Save the extra Money and Buy a Colt or a BCM or Insert other tier 1 rifles .Most have listen and ended up with Colts and thanked Me for leading them down the right path .

    the others I look at as uninformed or they think their Hunting rifle will be enough For anything.

    I did have a Guy say he would not own a Colt because "they Hate Civies"
    I told him he needs to read a little more Colt has shifted Back to Public Sales .
    And some well you just can't Fix stupid and i don't waste my time


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    I belong to Walther forums and specifically I am always hanging around the PPQ section, it's the only Walther to date that I own, I noticed in pictures of those with ARs and through time I felt some of those members out and then I was finally in the market for an AR and getting serious about it, at the time I knew absolutely nothing, I sent a PM to 2 individuals that gave me somewhat conflicting answers on which AR to reccomend , one said either a STAG or a Spikes Tac, the other said Colt Noveske or a DD, the one who reccomended the DD broke the whole rifle down to me and gave me so much knowledge that it was somewhat overwhelming to me, he had also stated that he had given about 5 other people advice on a great AR and they went and bought ones that were not so good. I then started to lurk on this forum and came to the decision to go with the DD V1 and I could not be happier, I am not saying that the STAG or spikes are bad because I really don't know to much about them, but what I do know is I bought one of the best ARs out there. I am glad I took his advice it was a tiny stretch on the amount of $ I wanted to spend but in the long run I am sure it will have saved me $ on upgrades. But yeah I am soooo happy that I listened, and I could tell he knew his shit

    Oh and as far as hanging shit to it, I have a black Vickers sling and 2 QD attachments, the next thing on it will be an Aimpoint.. And maybe just maybe my Klarus -XT11 but that's it..less to me is more with that hanging stuff.. So IYO how did I do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Speaking of people that don't shoot, but are thought to shoot a lot is LE! The majority of the LE around me shoot 62rds a year (because they have too). Most Civy's think that Cops are Ninja's with a firearm. If they only knew!

    C4
    True...but there are a few out there that really are "ninja's with their firearms". I happen to know one who is.....

    But they do tend to be a very rare breed

    as to your OP....Stereotypes exists for a reason...lest we forget that. However I try (key word, try) and let "the words coming out of their mouth" form my opinions of people.

    Yes, choice of gear, dress, hair style, tattoos etc all tell a bit of the story of who a person is...but the words coming out of their mouth tends to seal the deal in terms of my opinion more often than any other aspect of a person.

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    My friend, a marine with 3 tours under his belt (back in 04 etc when shit was crazy) is without a doubt the hardest SOB I have ever met, and he shoots a DPMS.

    So no, I don't. Is my Noveske twice the rifle? Definitely!! Am I twice the gunfighter? **** no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    The refrenced lower is Spikes Tactical.

    I can't believe that I didn't see that before...it is so obvious.

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    I try not to judge people by the rollmarks on their lowers.

    BUT when I go through a class and some dude is wearing his full USMC FROG top/bottom, EGA'd boots & SPC and he's never been in nor will be in.

    AND has colored in rollmarks.

    AND I have to stop what I'm doing on the line to show him how to adjust his EoTech brightness, I think douche right away.

    ETA: he was talking airsoft with another dude during lunch. I stayed at the other end of the line after that...
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