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Thread: Two LE Agencies Adopt SIG Piston Guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    I'm not in a place where I can research it but look for their propaganda regarding the carbine competition.

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    Only thing I have seen is that they made it to Phase II which from what I understand is true.
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    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    I'm not in a place where I can research it but look for their propaganda regarding the carbine competition.

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    Edited as I stand corrected.
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    I have a good friend who is a Dayton cop and he informed me they just revived a bunch of Sig AR s I'll have to ask him who paid for them. A local gun dealer told me Cincinnati cops we're given Smith and Wesson M&Ps pistols for free as long as they could be mentioned in Smiths Advertising. Don't be surprised if Sig isn't playing the same game.

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    Who knows how it really went down. Could be that Sig is using these PD's for marketing. Lets face it, the average person thinks that police carry all the best weapons. Most people don't know any better. Or maybe these departments ran some gun trials and the Sig came out on top for THEIR needs. One thing I do know, Cinci PD ain't small and their swat team is busy. Having said that, I hope the Sig does right by them when they need it.

    My PD still issues Bushmaster. We recently were given the option to carry personally owned rifles with Bushmaster, S&W and Colt to choose from. Needles to say, I turned in my Bushy and now carry my own 6920. Most guys went with the Bushmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBow View Post
    I have a good friend who is a Dayton cop and he informed me they just revived a bunch of Sig AR s I'll have to ask him who paid for them. A local gun dealer told me Cincinnati cops we're given Smith and Wesson M&Ps pistols for free as long as they could be mentioned in Smiths Advertising. Don't be surprised if Sig isn't playing the same game.
    Don't believe everything your local gun dealer tells you as gospel. Cincinnati was one of the very first agencies to go to the 9mm M&P. The three T&E guns tested were the first 3 9mm M&P's to leave the factory. There was a LOT more involved with the transition from the previous 5946's than advertising.

    I'm not with SWAT and will not comment on how and why the Sig guns were chosen to replace some old MP5's. Some of the individuals involved in that decision have since retired and have been replaced. Unfortunately those who replaced them inharated some things. These new Sig SBR carbines are o e example. I will say that there has been positive feedback on the Surfire suppressers that also was ordered with each of the Sig carbines.

    Grant did indeed spend a bit of time training with one of the SWAT teams mentioned. I drove out to meet him in person. (He's a hell of a nice guy). He had an interesting experience to put it mildly. If he had a chance to repeat the same training, he'd notice a drastic change. Unfortunately the Sig SBR's were a product of the previous era.


    I've played with one of the Sig SBR piston guns just for a short while. It went "bang" for the few rounds I fired. I thought the balance of the gun sucked. In no way did I spend enough time with it to have formed an opinion on the reliability of the system.

    I would have preferred to order some Colt 6933's and call it a day, were it me.

    Not that it matters to this topic, but as a Relief Sergeant, my Department approved, privately owned Patrol Rifle is a Colt 6920. I have no intent on replacing it with a piston gun, a Sig, or a Sig piston gun.
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    I corrected my earlier post to say "piston" and not "pistol". Thanks BigL for catching that for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    I corrected my earlier post to say "piston" and not "pistol". Thanks BigL for catching that for me.
    I think I saw "piston" too I sure didn't catch it

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    Quote Originally Posted by msap View Post
    Needles to say, I turned in my Bushy and now carry my own 6920. Most guys went with the Bushmaster.
    Too bad most LE isn't informed enough to make the same decision. Good on ya'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6933 View Post
    Too bad most LE isn't informed enough to make the same decision. Good on ya'.
    I'd wager that much blindly trust their dept and/or don't have the coin for personally owned weapons. I'd be happy if they knew enough to touch up the staking of the gas key, lube properly, buy good mags, and change springs as needed.

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