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    I tend to think of it in terms of a car engine. If you throw a different exhaust system on it, it's not a "build" it's an engine that was already built and you modified one thing about it. Modding, Re-building and Building a car engine mean different things. So as relative as "build" gets, it's annoying to hear it everywhere to me for some reason... unless you built it.
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    Then there's the "Attach/Push" method of the "Build". You attach the complete upper receiver group to the complete lower receiver group and push in two pins. Voila!

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    I guess for me it is building the Lower. I can never even find it justifiable to build an upper anymore it seems like. I can always seem to find someone who is offering what I am looking for assembled for pennies more then it would cost me to build it.

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    I am bemused by the folks referring to their AR as "this build", "that build", "my build". My first "build" took four hours, maybe four and a half. I can do it in a third of that time now. It's no big deal, the AR is very modular and easy to work on. I have to think to remember which ones I built and which ones I did not. My gates were a "build". I bought some surplus heavy duty gates and posts. Dug footings over a cubic yard each, set the posts and poured concrete. I ran electrical wire, mounted lights, attached wood and painted the whole thing. Took about a month working in the evenings. I could have "built" fifty ARs in that time. Can't find the pictures. Here's a photo of one of my reloading benches I built. Took quite a bit of work and no one coaching me. I don't brag about it.



    I will brag about that group though. Five shots, offhand at 200 yards with a 458 Winchester magnum. Four and a half inches. No, I am not claiming I can do it at will. Sometimes even a blind hog gets an acorn.

    Found a pic of one of the gateposts:



    That gatepost is actually three pieces of pipe arranged coaxially, over ten feet long with a flange on the bottom. It weighs about three hundred fifty pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim View Post
    I am bemused by the folks referring to their AR as "this build", "that build", "my build". My first "build" took four hours, maybe four and a half. I can do it in a third of that time now. It's no big deal, the AR is very modular and easy to work on. I have to think to remember which ones I built and which ones I did not. My gates were a "build". I bought some surplus heavy duty gates and posts. Dug footings over a cubic yard each, set the posts and poured concrete. I ran electrical wire, mounted lights, attached wood and painted the whole thing. Took about a month working in the evenings. I could have "built" fifty ARs in that time. Can't find the pictures. Here's a photo of one of my reloading benches I built. Took quite a bit of work and no one coaching me. I don't brag about it.



    I will brag about that group though. Five shots, offhand at 200 yards with a 458 Winchester magnum. Four and a half inches. No, I am not claiming I can do it at will. Sometimes even a blind hog gets an acorn.

    Found a pic of one of the gateposts:



    That gatepost is actually three pieces of pipe arranged coaxially, over ten feet long with a flange on the bottom. It weighs about three hundred fifty pounds.
    More skill in those builds then any AR build.

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    No matter how you buy your parts, either as a preassbled assembly or individual parts, you are assembling the gun. Rarely do you have to fit or modify parts. You don't build an AR, you assemble one.

    I have assembled countless AR 15 rifles. The ones that I assembled 100 percent were not any more difficult than the ones I bought a pre assembled upper and seperate lower that I assembled from a parts kit and a stripped lower.

    The term build or assemble, when talking about AR's, is semantics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigSlave View Post
    No matter how you buy your parts, either as a preassbled assembly or individual parts, you are assembling the gun. Rarely do you have to fit or modify parts. You don't build an AR, you assemble one.

    I have assembled countless AR 15 rifles. The ones that I assembled 100 percent were not any more difficult than the ones I bought a pre assembled upper and seperate lower that I assembled from a parts kit and a stripped lower.

    The term build or assemble, when talking about AR's, is semantics.
    Thanks for typing that out for me.

    Unless your machining products or doing real one off stuff, then "you didnt build that" you assembled it with help from others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swstock View Post
    Thanks for typing that out for me.

    Unless your machining products or doing real one off stuff, then "you didnt build that" you assembled it with help from others.
    I almost typed the Obama reference too.

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    We know building an AR is easy. Thats not really what the build is all about, a build is about the parts chosen and why, and how they go together to meet their intended purpose.

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    It boils down to degrees of customization vs "build from scratch." Obviously if you assemble/replace everything on a lower and an upper, except that you use a prebuilt BCM barrel assembly on the upper, you're getting close to a "build." Somebody who slaps a pistol grip on their preassembled lower, then puts on a preassembled upper, and calls it a "build," is obviously going to earn the ire of folks who really "build" AR's down to the last pin and spring.

    I usually don't split hairs over the distinction, it isn't that meaningful. When most people say "my new build", I assume they mean "my new somewhat-customized rifle."

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