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Thread: Curious...what makes an AR15 a "build?"

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    I put nail polish on the front sight of my RIA 1911. I now have a custom 1911. . . . yay


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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    We know building an AR is easy. Thats not really what the build is all about, a build is about the parts chosen and why, and how they go together to meet their intended purpose.
    I think this was in response to my post, if not, I apologize.

    What if the pre assembled upper has everything you want for your intended purpose? Why waste time throwing a barrel, sight post, delt ring, gas tube, port cover and forward assist assembly together when say Daniel Defense offers what you want already assembled?

    That's the route I went. I bought a midlength DD upper assembly, threw a BCM bolt carrier group and charging handle on a stripped Aero lower with the ALG LPK that Brownells offers. I upgraded to an SSA a month later. Is that a build? I could have easily assembled the upper myself, but why when it comes as an assembly.

    The thing is, it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody builds AR 15's unless your company's name is engraved on the receiver. Even that is up for debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not truly a build unless you mine the Aluminum Oxide ore, refine it yourself, and forge the receivers yourself.
    Thats awesome. I totally agree. What people consider an AR
    build just isnt. More like an AR "assembly" . Unless your
    forging.. your not building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not truly a build unless you mine the Aluminum Oxide ore, refine it yourself, and forge the receivers yourself.
    I hate doing +1 comments but this deserves it. Lmaooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    We know building an AR is easy. Thats not really what the build is all about, a build is about the parts chosen and why, and how they go together to meet their intended purpose.
    I'll buy half of this. I know some folks spend a lot of time researching and choosing the part that most closely meets their requirements. I respect that though it's not my cup of tea. I think there are however folks who think they have really accomplished a difficult task in assembling an AR. I can understand it, never much done anything with their hands, never assembled a firearm, they are going to be proud. I would hope though as they gain some experience they will come to understand it is not that big a deal and not boast so much. I like to apply the wisdom of the football coach who's name I can't remember, maybe never knew who said "When you score a touchdown, don't act like it's the first one you ever made. Act like you do it all the time." Of course if it is the first on you ever made I suppose you can be excused for acting like it is the first one you ever made.
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    I've always tried to avoid using the word "build" when talking bout AR's I've put together because, like some of you have already posted, assembling an AR isn't really building anything. If you aren't reaming a chamber, threading a barrel or machining anything you shouldn't be calling yourself a "Gunsmith" either. An AR assembler is no more of a gunsmith than the guy at Jiffy Lube changing your oil is a mechanic. I never could understand why someone would spend $400 on taking an AR-15 Armorer Course when you can watch YouTube and put one together yourself. No rocket science to it what-so-ever.

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    This post has nothing to do with the definition of a custom build - but, I would much rather see a list of mods to a stock rifle with detailed explanations of why each was chosen, intended usage and compromises made, pros/ cons, and an aar from actually shooting it. I think that a thread like that is more fitting with the theme of this site, regardless of whether the gun was built from scratch or not. Too many of the "custom build" threads are nothing more than a list of parts and a picture of the rifle on someone's dining room floor
    Last edited by Toyoland66; 10-24-12 at 21:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not truly a build unless you mine the Aluminum Oxide ore, refine it yourself, and forge the receivers yourself.
    That's true purist talk right there.

    For most, the sensible line is something that requires a tool in order to accomplish being built as opposed to 'I stuck the two halves together'. That's where I decide, at a minimum.

    Anything where you've replaced modular parts that require not tools obviously doesn't count, and drop-in part replacement obviously doesn't either.


    Again, it shouldn't matter how much of the rifle came in what form, toyo hit the nail on the head that the key part of the USEFUL threads are the detailed explanations of chosen parts for an intended purpose.
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    I always say "assemble" not "build". I turned this..



    ..into this..



    .. in about 2 hours with breaks. My cut barreled Romanian RPK kit with 80% blank is a whole other story.

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