This thread should be stickied to serve as a reminder to us to not bicker over pointless bullshit and let small things that bother us slightly go because it isn't worth it.
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This thread should be stickied to serve as a reminder to us to not bicker over pointless bullshit and let small things that bother us slightly go because it isn't worth it.
I'm all about building/assembling totally from parts, but I don't necessarily see the point of pride in building something if you can purchase the same thing already assembled for the same/similar price. My first 'build' turned in to putting a complete upper on a lower I assembled, but am I feeling less than manly? Heck no. I was able to get a lightly used assembled BCM upper w/14.5" bbl + pinned FH and DD RISII M4A1 rail for $600 shipped. (That was what I intended to assemble in the first place.) I'd have a hard time beating that price buying the same parts piecemeal.
I can comfortably and confidently break an AR down to pieces (excluding removing the bbl extension) and reassemble it, so unless I come up with a (practical) combo that just has never been done before, I'm at best just re-inventing the wheel by doing 'a build.' So I don't think less of someone that mods a 'complete' gun to better suit their needs vs. doing a custom build. If you are replacing some pretty expensive parts (rails, for example) with other pretty expensive parts, there may be a little 'loss of equity,' and that is where doing your own 'custom build' might be a better idea if you know exactly what you want. Of course if you can sell the take-off parts for a good price, that factor is mitigated, IMO.
It seems that quite a few take exception to the term "Build", then mayhap we should request that the forum section on that topic either get renamed (to what I have no idea) or removed. That forum section already has pretty strict guidelines about what you can and cannot post, and still has a high fire danger (READ - risk of getting flamed) for the poster.
Even calling something a "Custom" is rather redundant, since you can just about get an AR spec'd out to your choice of everything straight from the manufacturer...I mean retailer.
Maybe - "Hey, look what I ruined"
I'm waiting on my barrel for my second [insert term here] and the only complete part is the upper receiver - not a whole lot more skill in assembling a FA and dust cover, and I don't know that Vltor sells stripped MUR uppers. I'm hesitant to even post it over there when it's done.
Last edited by Sticks; 10-27-12 at 06:18.
Sticks
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I am on my 3rd build. In fact, as I was working on my build today, a friend and longtime gunsmith stopped by and asked me, "what are you buildin'?".
I have built many race cars. From National Ranked UMP open wheel mods, to 4 complete World of Outlaws Late models. I did NOT manufacture any of them, I built them. I did, however, design and manufacture various parts for those cars. Complete, total difference.
I did not design or manufacture any parts on my 3 AR15s.
I did research and pick which parts I wanted.
Then I built those parts into a complete rifle.
Manufacture and build, are two different things.
Those that split hairs, and claim that it is not a build unless you "manufacture" the parts are.
Reading comprehension - it is important.
Last time I checked, the discussion was about the difference between assembling and building. Nothing was said about manufacturing, until you brought that up...
I like the way of saying "I newly assembled my Ar15" or "I customized my AR"
But I just can't say I "built" my AR. Saying that is a disservice to all those that really take the time, money, and effort to really work on an AR from the ground up.
Seems like you have a lack of simple understanding. As others have pointed out, "assembling" and "building" are virtualy interchangeable. The true difference is between "manufacturing" and "building/assembling".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
"We assembled together Thursday night to build (construct) two AR15 rifles to sell at the upcoming gunshow." It would even be correct to say, "We assembled together Thursday night to assemble (build) two AR15 rifles to sell at the upcoming gunshow."
Reading comprehension- it is important.
Last edited by PortDawg; 10-27-12 at 20:31. Reason: Clarity
I think some people just like to tell other people they "Build" AR's. Makes them sound badass. I usually refer to them as something I've put together.
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