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Thread: Is the RRA CAR or Mid-length really that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist1970 View Post
    Unless you are firing hundreds of rounds per weekend in serious competition or a training school, any average AR built by anyone will do for most shooters.

    Despite what the chart says, I have a Colt 20" Sp-1(A1 profile), a Bushmaster XM15E2 20"(A2 Profile), and a Windham Weaponry WW15 (M4gery)

    I've fired hundreds of rounds in each and have yet to find anything wrong with any of them.

    On that note, more attention has been payed to the cosmetic appearance and tight fit between the upper and lower on the WW-15, than on either my Colt or Bushhamster.

    Just check with people who have actually owned or tried various manufacturers products because theres a LOT of gun snobbery out there by folks feel they need to justify their choice in gun.

    Be realistic, if you just want something to blast away with at the range a few times a year, or just want something that beats a sharp pointy stick if SHTF most AR's no matter who made them will do.
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    Get a bcm 14.5" middy and you'll never think about a cock river. I know someone with one and it is picky on ammo. A friends bushmaster ran fine with same rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorris View Post
    RRA is over priced junk.

    Terrible barrels, terrible quality control, terribly cheap materials being used, gimmicky snake oil accessories. They are junk.
    I second that.

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    I sense a closed thread about to occur.

    OP - Walmart has Colt 6920s for around the price of a RRA. Guaranteed to run. I hope you are happy with what you choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist1970 View Post
    Unless you are firing hundreds of rounds per weekend in serious competition or a training school, any average AR built by anyone will do for most shooters.

    Despite what the chart says, I have a Colt 20" Sp-1(A1 profile), a Bushmaster XM15E2 20"(A2 Profile), and a Windham Weaponry WW15 (M4gery)

    I've fired hundreds of rounds in each and have yet to find anything wrong with any of them.

    On that note, more attention has been payed to the cosmetic appearance and tight fit between the upper and lower on the WW-15, than on either my Colt or Bushhamster.

    Just check with people who have actually owned or tried various manufacturers products because theres a LOT of gun snobbery out there by folks feel they need to justify their choice in gun.

    Be realistic, if you just want something to blast away with at the range a few times a year, or just want something that beats a sharp pointy stick if SHTF most AR's no matter who made them will do.
    This is the type of stupidity that keeps these sub par companies buildings shit. So you have put one range trip worth of rounds through the lot, and that makes them all great. Hundreds of rounds is one trip to the range.

    If you buy your AR for shtf it needs to work with minimal upkeep at any given time. That is the worst situation to have one of the shit AR's you mentioned with the exception being the colt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist1970 View Post
    On that note, more attention has been payed to the cosmetic appearance and tight fit between the upper and lower on the WW-15, than on either my Colt or Bushhamster.

    Just check with people who have actually owned or tried various manufacturers products because theres a LOT of gun snobbery out there by folks feel they need to justify their choice in gun.
    First of all fit and finish has no effect on accuracy or function. Second, its not snobbery it is that most of us here have owned these other brands and from experience can tell you that there is a difference.
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    Tight fit between upper and lower is also of low importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    First of all fit and finish has no effect on accuracy or function. Second, its not snobbery it is that most of us here have owned these other brands and from experience can tell you that there is a difference.
    Fit and finish does matter. Both are specified in the blueprint and are critical to the operation of the rifle and it's resistance to the elements and wear.

    I'll give you that most folks don't know what fit & finish really means. Most take to mean that parts are lovingly polished, steels have a deep, rich blue or maybe case hardening and the wood is hand rubbed with linseed oil until the warmth of the wood comes out. The reality is that an AR with good fit and finish is built to specification and maybe the metal finish is finer than the maximum allowable surface roughness and the parts have the correct anodizing, parkerizing and/or chrome plating applied
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    get a middy because longer sight radius, less recoil, and more rail space

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Fit and finish does matter. Both are specified in the blueprint and are critical to the operation of the rifle and it's resistance to the elements and wear.

    I'll give you that most folks don't know what fit & finish really means. Most take to mean that parts are lovingly polished, steels have a deep, rich blue or maybe case hardening and the wood is hand rubbed with linseed oil until the warmth of the wood comes out. The reality is that an AR with good fit and finish is built to specification and maybe the metal finish is finer than the maximum allowable surface roughness and the parts have the correct anodizing, parkerizing and/or chrome plating applied
    Good point, i was referring mostly to when people are talking about play between upper and lower receivers, and also the color of the anodizing matching. Fit as in fit of parts in relation to each other and finish of proper heat treatments and finishes are very important as you stated.
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