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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    I don't know where you got this chart from, but it's wrong. HS forges their own lowers - there are threads on this.
    They forge their own lowers?
    You sure?

    I bet you meant that they machine their own lowers from forgings.
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    Anybody that owns or sells pistol versions of assault rifles is a bottom feeder, irregardless of the ban status of certain ammunition.

    They are illigetimate weapons that have no real purpose other than to attract retards to the gun community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    I don't know where you got this chart from, but it's wrong. HS forges their own lowers - there are threads on this.
    Please let me know where there are threads on this and or show me otherwise.

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    Well you got a hobby gun, I did this too back in the day. No way to justify it, just wont happen shoot it and move on. Now that you know sell it to some one who doesn't and try again. If you don't like the answer's your getting you should not have asked before doing your homework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaSierra View Post
    I don't know where the hell you read that, but...

    It was a horrible choice. As I rather clearly stated, I wouldn't carry it if it was free....

    However, I'm simply sick of trying to explain to people why they made a bad choice, when reading for fifteen minutes on this site should give you all the information you need....

    So, like I said in my previous post, if this carbine is simply going to be a range toy (yes, that was sarcasm) then rock on (again, sarcasm.)
    My first rifle was an MP15. It was fine for what its use was. Higher round counts called for something better.
    If his rifle is going to see 500 rounds a year then rock on... at least its another American suporting his right to own.
    As for "carry" I wouldnt carry it either. But in the sence carry, I mean deployed. Im unsure what you mean. LE, MIL?
    At least hes here now to learn. Most peoples rifles will life thier entire life as range toys in a sence. It may serve as a defence tool need be, but chances are it will only be protecting you from paper. Im not saying buying low quality stuff for the purpose of protection is advisable but thats a personal preference and he doesnt need to have someone jumping up his ass. Should I not own a 100+ year old rifle because it wont work if I tried to stop an agressor with it? Its not my go to by any means.
    We are all getting a little full ourselfs for being knowlagable and making initial good purchaces. We were all in the dark at one point... I didnt know about this site pre first purchace eaither. But google said bushmaster was the way to go


    ** My spelling my be off, im on my new phone and this thing is a misserable tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    Well you got a hobby gun, I did this too back in the day. No way to justify it, just wont happen shoot it and move on. Now that you know sell it to some one who doesn't and try again. If you don't like the answer's your getting you should not have asked before doing your homework.
    Nah not upset with anyone at all in regards to answers. I left my feelings at the door bro. I am man enough to say it was an impulsive choice. I am hear now to learn. Yea its a bit disheartening that some feel it necessary to demean me or relate it to me voting, but pride and ego is something that will put you in the grave. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsop View Post
    My first rifle was an MP15. It was fine for what its use was. Higher round counts called for something better.
    If his rifle is going to see 500 rounds a year then rock on... at least its another American suporting his right to own.
    As for "carry" I wouldnt carry it either. But in the sence carry, I mean deployed. Im unsure what you mean. LE, MIL?
    At least hes here now to learn. Most peoples rifles will life thier entire life as range toys in a sence. It may serve as a defence tool need be, but chances are it will only be protecting you from paper. Im not saying buying low quality stuff for the purpose of protection is advisable but thats a personal preference and he doesnt need to have someone jumping up his ass. Should I not own a 100+ year old rifle because it wont work if I tried to stop an agressor with it? Its not my go to by any means.
    We are all getting a little full ourselfs for being knowlagable and making initial good purchaces. We were all in the dark at one point... I didnt know about this site pre first purchace eaither. But google said bushmaster was the way to go


    ** My spelling my be off, im on my new phone and this thing is a
    misserable tool.
    I appreciate your mature approach in this matter. Thanks and hats off to ya..

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    For what you have said the rifle will be used for I supposed you did ok, could have easly ran into a shop and had the sales man sell you this exact gun for 1000 without the optics. as for this gun minus the optics you could have done better for the price point going with an M&P sport. If it were me I would just shoot as much as possible to get time behind the trigger and learn the platform then sell it and step up to a higher quality rifle. I dont see why you couldnt get most if not all of the 600$ back selling the rifle. There are a lot of people who will pay that for a used black rifle just to have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    They forge their own lowers?
    You sure?

    I bet you meant that they machine their own lowers from forgings.
    You got it!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldawg View Post
    Please let me know where there are threads on this and or show me otherwise.
    After some additional research, it appears I confused High Standard with Superior Arms. My apologies.

    As far as that list that you posted, this has been floating around gun forums for years now and is simply not accurate. The first giveaway to this fact was that it says CMT makes lowers for Colt. Additionally, Noveske no longer sources their lowers from CMT and have not for some time. Nor does S&W. Spike's sources their lowers from LAR, Aero, and Mega. POF machines their own lowers out of billet aluminum. Palmetto (PSA) most likely sources their lowers from Aero. I highly doubt Knight's Armament sources their lowers from LMT, but I would not be surprised if they did. Armalite most likely sources their lowers from Aero, since Aero does make upper receivers for them. Bushmaster and DPMS do their own lowers, as well, and have most likely consolidated their production now that both are owned by Freedom Group.
    Last edited by justin_247; 10-30-12 at 11:33.

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    There is a great deal of mistaken insinuation about that list, and exactly what it means, as well as the fact that it is pretty old.

    That being said, it is pretty rare that the lower/upper is at fault when a gun has issues.
    Jack Leuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldawg View Post
    Nah not upset with anyone at all in regards to answers. I left my feelings at the door bro. I am man enough to say it was an impulsive choice. I am hear now to learn. Yea its a bit disheartening that some feel it necessary to demean me or relate it to me voting, but pride and ego is something that will put you in the grave. Thanks for the heads up.
    Impulsive choices will surely put you into a grave sooner than my supposed "pride and ego." I operate upon informed decisions and facts more often than not. More often than not, impulsive choices lead to bad financial decisions, criminal activity, and general stupidity.

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