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Thread: Best Optic, 1x4 or 3x9-40 with Offset Red Dot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I have the most experience with the Swaro Z6i, which is simply phenominal, despite the fact that there are things about it I would like to change.

    I am looking forward to getting more time behind the Leupy Mk6. For my use, the VX-6 isn't quite cutting it. Might be a good option for someone that doesn't mind certain features and for whom Swaro is not budget friendly.

    Both are notably pricey, as is the only currently viable 1-8x (Leupy).
    I am considering a z6i for my 762 OBR. Would you mind commenting on the aspects of the z6i you would like to see changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    I am considering a z6i for my 762 OBR. Would you mind commenting on the aspects of the z6i you would like to see changed?

    Thanks.
    I have used and owned the Z6i for a while now.
    I love it but the things I would like to see changed are.
    Red dot instead of amber. Ambers fine but I just prefer red.
    1/4 moa or 1/10 mil clicks instead of .54 ones. Thats about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    I have a related question. I have a bit of rds and iron experience, but no long range scope experience.
    Im looking at a low power variable, and want to be able to make hits to 600 yards for fun. Would a 1-4 work, if so what kind of reticle? I was thinking a tr24 and just dial it in since Id be proned out for that kind of shooting. Would this work out okay? Or is 4x not really enough magnification at that range?
    It depends a lot on exactly what you are shooting at and your needed precision level. Steel torso targets painted white are a lot easier to identify and hit than a 6" circular piece of steel that has been beat up a bit, which are both distinctly different than a dude hiding in tree-line, even if they are all at 300 meters with the same wind effect.

    I also saw the eye box on the vortex 2.5-10(pst) was huge(17mm or so) and was wondering if using it it as an occluded optic would be feasible or if a rds would still be much better.
    Occluded optic shooting is dumb.
    Learn to use the sight as designed and you will have a much better, more realistic, more efficient skillset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    I am considering a z6i for my 762 OBR. Would you mind commenting on the aspects of the z6i you would like to see changed?

    Thanks.
    I've had some more time behind the Leupy Mk6 1-6, and at this point I prefer it to the Swaro. Still need some more time with it, but it is pretty impressive. For a precision 7.62 gun I would lean toward the 1-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I've had some more time behind the Leupy Mk6 1-6, and at this point I prefer it to the Swaro. Still need some more time with it, but it is pretty impressive. For a precision 7.62 gun I would lean toward the 1-8.

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    Yeah, we're going to need a bit more in depth write up on that.

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    I have been using a Leupold VX-R Patrol (1-4 with illuminated red dot in the center of an SPR reticle) for 3 gun and I like it a lot. My biggest complaint is that the crosshairs are a little thick for true precision shooting.

    I also recently picked up a Vortex Viper PST, which I also like, as much as I can without having shot it yet. The reticle is much finer, and the entire reticle illuminates as opposed to just the dot of the Leupold. If I could mate two of them and keep my preferred features from both, it would be the absolute perfect optic, for me.

    Both of them are fairly close to $500 mark too I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    Yeah, we're going to need a bit more in depth write up on that.
    There will probably be quite a few other opinions/articles out before mine; I still don't have mine yet, and I will want to shoot with it for at least 6 months before giving my opinion in that kind of detail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I've had some more time behind the Leupy Mk6 1-6, and at this point I prefer it to the Swaro. Still need some more time with it, but it is pretty impressive. For a precision 7.62 gun I would lean toward the 1-8.

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    Thanks for the info. A CQBSS may be in my future.

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    At 600 or so yds I'd be shooting 12" or so plates. Groundhogs and coyotes seem to be in my future also, leaning towards vortex 2.5-10 or trijicon 3-9. I can then save up in case trijicon comes out w a 1-6. I can't justify 3k or 22 oz for my purposes right now and I don't want to get a 1-4 only to get a 1-6 down the road.

    I looked up occluded, not quite what I meant. I meant using the crosshairs up close without actually looking through the scope and getting a sight picture- both eyes open, or does this not work well? Either way I have a redot for within 100 for now. Or is 22 oz for the ss1-6 not bad - I'm totally lost here.

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    Vortex Glass is damn hard to beat, especially considering its pricing.

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