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    Can I suggest a better (IMO) alternative to "buy from Walmart"? There is a site sponsor with a good reputation that will stand behind the sale.

    You can get the LE6920 from Grant (G&R Tactical) for $1050 and add a BCM Gunfighter charging handle (he'll swap) at a discount. Likely less than from your Walmart - who will charge tax (here it's almost 10% ). Of course there is a small shipping charge + FFL xfer. Its nice to support a small business with good old fashioned service.

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ction&key=6920

    BTW - thanks Grant for my back-up rifle

    EDIT - Well damn, I see you edited your last post, and my above reply was too slow. However, wise choice on the 6920.
    Last edited by cinco; 11-03-12 at 17:44.

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    Don't listen to anyone here, just get the Frankengun!

    Kidding obviously. Colt for the win.

    Quote Originally Posted by cinco View Post
    Can I suggest a better (IMO) alternative to "buy from Walmart"? There is a site sponsor with a good reputation that will stand behind the sale.

    You can get the LE6920 from Grant (G&R Tactical) for $1050 and add a BCM Gunfighter charging handle (he'll swap) at a discount. Likely less than from your Walmart - who will charge tax (here it's almost 10% ). Of course there is a small shipping charge + FFL xfer. Its nice to support a small business with good old fashioned service.

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ction&key=6920

    BTW - thanks Grant for my back-up rifle

    EDIT - Well damn, I see you edited your last post, and my above reply was too slow. However, wise choice on the 6920.
    and what he said. Grant G&R for the win, win.
    Last edited by 59_Gretsch; 11-03-12 at 17:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Might as well get used to these kinds of threads because they just going to keep popping up until election Panic is over.

    Ideally for Grant they will be popping up for decades to come. There are 314,000,000 people in the United States while membership here now stands at just over 59,000 (not to disrespect this very respectable figure). So with that, consider tens of millions of current gun owners combined with millions more potential gun owners and as membership ideally swells questions, yes even the dreaded easily searchable ones, will be asked repeatedly.

    Making some of these folks feel dumb isn't necessarily helpful, maintaining a knowledgeable yet respectable is level of discussion is. Not directing that part at you simply because while you can become impatient at times you have also generously dispensed tons of helpful information to thousands. Hopefully you get my main point.

    And yes, people can eventually become despondent with what over time they feel becomes a redundant yet seemingly thankless task. But I bet if you knew how many out there have put your words to use behind the scenes over the years you'd feel better about fielding the newcomer questions more often.

    By the way, do you guys get paid yet?

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    I was contemplating "building" an M4. I mean, build it. As in put together everything on it. Not just slap an upper and a lower together.

    However...

    Being the Colt's have come way down in price and you get the MOE stock to boot... I just can't rationalize building one to save $200(ish) and sacrifice on quality parts.

    I will be taking the forum advice and get an M4 from Grant.
    As of now, they are outta stock. No matter. I'm not that rich yet. Which, was another factor to building one but I will just save up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Anderson View Post
    I was contemplating "building" an M4. I mean, build it. As in put together everything on it. Not just slap an upper and a lower together.

    However...

    Being the Colt's have come way down in price and you get the MOE stock to boot... I just can't rationalize building one to save $200(ish) and sacrifice on quality parts.

    I will be taking the forum advice and get an M4 from Grant.
    As of now, they are outta stock. No matter. I'm not that rich yet. Which, was another factor to building one but I will just save up
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    I see myself in your thought processes. I used to be so impulsive in my younger days and tended to rush into things. As I've grown more mature (older ), I have learned to allow myself to "stew" upon things and humbly take advice from those more experienced. Thanks to this site I have made wise choices. Quality is NEVER a bad decision - you will not be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinco View Post
    I see myself in your thought processes. I used to be so impulsive in my younger days and tended to rush into things. As I've grown more mature (older ), I have learned to allow myself to "stew" upon things and humbly take advice from those more experienced. Thanks to this site I have made wise choices. Quality is NEVER a bad decision - you will not be disappointed.
    ha! Problem is, I'm passing my "younger days" rather quickly now.
    Opinions vary but being 35, I definitely do not feel like I'm 25.
    Mentally, I'm satisfied. Physically? eh. Between driving truck and a family it's hard for me to stay in peak physical condition.


    Speaking of mentally...
    I found these tonight. And now my head is actually spinning.

    Decisions, decisions!
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...&key=MID-750-C

    or

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...key=A4-870-212

    I really see that 20" in my future turned into an SPR role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Anderson View Post
    ha! Problem is, I'm passing my "younger days" rather quickly now.
    Opinions vary but being 35, I definitely do not feel like I'm 25.
    Mentally, I'm satisfied. Physically? eh. Between driving truck and a family it's hard for me to stay in peak physical condition.


    Speaking of mentally...
    I found these tonight. And now my head is actually spinning.

    Decisions, decisions!
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...&key=MID-750-C
    or

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...key=A4-870-212

    I really see that 20" in my future turned into an SPR role.
    Ha ha - now I know we are alike The B C M 16 " middy is my go to rifle, the 6 9 2 0 is the b/u. Either one you can't go wrong and are great investments. Personally I prefer the longer reach of the mid as I'm tallish... Good luck - the hard part is the waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinco View Post
    Ha ha - now I know we are alike The B C M 16 " middy is my go to rifle, the 6 9 2 0 is the b/u. Either one you can't go wrong and are great investments. Personally I prefer the longer reach of the mid as I'm tallish... Good luck - the hard part is the waiting.
    That BCM middy is the way I went---straight from Grant. What a great little rifle. I'm with you on the extra reach of the mid.

    As far as I can tell, the only reason not to get a 6920 from Wal-Mart is to get a BCM from Grant.

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    The wait is always the hard part it seems, you are correct.

    I was really looking at that 20" from Grant (BCM) because I'm leaning toward an SPR type set up. I figure IT would be a better starting point than the 16" (which being a middy, would def appeal to me), due to having to buy a stock and rail system.

    I'm totally happy with the A2 style stock. IF I were to replace it, the PRS has my eye. But I don't think that is really necessary.

    The 20" is slightly higher, but again, I feel it is already heading toward the place I wanna go.
    No matter, I got time to think it over lol.

    Got distracted today by thinking about a$600 M&P and then buying a REM700 tactical for another $600 that way my eggs aren't all in one basket. But I can't find the M&P for $600 (other than the sport line, which, w/out the FA and dust cover, just doesn't appeal to me) like the OP found for $600... which, turns out wasn't even a new complete M&P? lol - I dunno. Waiting, watching biding time.

    (*ETA* - wrong thread ha - I was referring to another thread where the OP bought an M&P from a local gun shop for $600 and turned out it was only the lower and he had lots of prob's out of it and blah blah - here:
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=101317)

    That is the thing about aging... I have much more patience at 35 compared to 25 and I can sacrifice alittle physical strength/stamina for that and still get it done. hooah?
    Last edited by Mr.Anderson; 11-04-12 at 11:05. Reason: thread confusion

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    Well, if not a hooah, at least an ooh-rah!

    I don't really like the A2 stock . . . but that's only because I prefer the 5/8" shorter A1 stock. One of my dirty little secrets is I always preferred the rifle stock because the rifle buffer and spring are smooth as twenty year old Scotch whisky. (No "e" in whisky!) The Vltor A5 extension/buffer/spring setup has finally made collapsible stocks worthwhile for me.

    It took me a long, long time to get back into the AR market. I sweated and pondered and calculated and figgered and tried to find the best, cheapest solution. Lots of reading here, lots of reading at TOS. Finally I narrowed it down to (yes) either a Colt or a BCM middy. My only regret is that I didn't hold out for a LW middy---and that's a piddling regret.

    As for aging, I'm trying to claw my way back. Hopefully my greater patience will make up for my piss=poor physical conditioning at present; I've got a long slog back to fitness ahead of me.

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