well hell! i guess allll xm193 will be for punching paper.
whats a good bulk ammo to buy for steel?
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well hell! i guess allll xm193 will be for punching paper.
whats a good bulk ammo to buy for steel?
1/4" is nice at 600 yards and beyond. 3/8 just hardly moves or rings.
We shoot them much closer than that. And the slanted steel we'll shot as clost as 10 yards.
The heavier the bullet, the better. But stuff like PMC bronze which is mild isn't too bad. XM193 is fine beyond 100 because a 55 grain bullet sheds velocity very quickly.
The idea is low velocity. That's why even M855 is easier on AR500 plate than XM193 inside of 100.
Last edited by markm; 10-31-12 at 10:47.
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Mostly this. I have been able to shoot XM193 at 50 (AR500) and it will pit worse than any other ammo. I try to use low power ammo on steel for plinking.
3/8 AR500 will last pretty long. Shootsteel.com has good prices and you can turn the target around when it pits too bad on one side opposed to some targets that you have the mount on the back so you can only use one side.
Last edited by chadil1ac; 10-31-12 at 10:50.
I'll try and get a few pics of the targets we use. We got a deal at our club, (as in free) on some old Level III steel and coated steel armor plates. At 50-yards, the thicker plates, (I'm guessing 1/4" until I measure) have been hit thousands of times with everything 5.56 and .308 - even some odd 7.62x54r and hunting rounds and have not been penetrated. A thinner body armor plate took 7 hits of XM193 to penetrate, but a newer 'coated' thin performs like the older heavy plate and had no rounds through. We do have some 1/4" AR500 plate that we have yet to cut. We hang the plates on a bracket which angles the plate slightly, (about 8º) and while I'm no engineer, I think it helps with the longevity of the steel...ETA: Like Markm - we shoot them at close range - out to 200-yards
Last edited by MassMark; 10-31-12 at 12:41.
3/8" will be longest lasting as stated.
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If its AR steel it's good to go. I bought "AR500" steel off ebay and it blows.... It's 1/2" and at 100 yds tula's blow holes straight through it...
FNG here. YouTube of AR500 standing up to .50 cal. Seems relevant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJdz8...e_gdata_player
Wanted to give some clarification on my "default to 3/8" comment:
If you are going to be shooting within 100 meters, the issue is not bullet penetration, but front face cratering/chipping. Dents of greater than 1/16 can affect spall pattern, resulting in erratic spall, which leads to more chunks of metal being bounced back uprange.
Having a forward cant of 30 degrees helps greatly in this regard.
Most of my steel use is from 25 to 200 meters, with a bit at longer range, and I have to bring my own for that envelope as most places get cheap steel that gets torn up at close range or does not sit at an acceptable angle for closer work with rifle calibers.
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