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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    The M4-1000 numbers look low, but I can't get in to John Titsworth's site to confirm what he metered it at.

    Anyhow the 416-SD is apparently the same can as the M4-2000 for this model year.

    In the past the 416-SD was a shorty can, like the SCAR-SD.

    He metered it at 28db. He did not test the others,

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    Maybe 28-30dB is about right then. 160dB to 132dB is pretty good.

    Anyway, I have the older M4-2000, which is essentially the M4-1000 -- it sounds pretty darn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    Anyhow the 416-SD is apparently the same can as the M4-2000 for this model year.

    In the past the 416-SD was a shorty can, like the SCAR-SD.
    That's what confuses me a bit. The dimensions on the SCAR-SD and 416-SD models are essentially identical (OAL, weight, diameter). But there is a large discrepency in there ratings, when last years models were identical. It makes me wonder if the 416-SD number of 36dB is a misprint.

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    It doesn't make sense to me but from I heard from a local shop that stocks AOW's and suppressors is that in WA state it is legal to OWN a suppressor but not legal to USE a suppressor within the state. So my take is that if you legally own the suppressor you can mount it on your weapon, but cannot fire your said weapon with the suppressor that you legally own. This is a topic that I am following since I really would like to own a Soundtech Pocket Rifle.

    Quote Originally Posted by GlockWRX View Post
    That's what confuses me a bit. The dimensions on the SCAR-SD and 416-SD models are essentially identical (OAL, weight, diameter). But there is a large discrepency in there ratings, when last years models were identical. It makes me wonder if the 416-SD number of 36dB is a misprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seafarinman View Post
    It doesn't make sense to me but from I heard from a local shop that stocks AOW's and suppressors is that in WA state it is legal to OWN a suppressor but not legal to USE a suppressor within the state. So my take is that if you legally own the suppressor you can mount it on your weapon, but cannot fire your said weapon with the suppressor that you legally own. This is a topic that I am following since I really would like to own a Soundtech Pocket Rifle.

    It is considered a misdemeanor to actually use a suppressor. But you can use it in neighboring states.

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    That still makes no sense to me, but at least we can legally own them here in WA.
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    When you compare the SCAR-SD and 416-SD specs on the AAC website, they are totally different than the M4-2000. When you look at the specs in the 2008 catalog, they are all the same. I wonder if AAC has consolidated those models to the M4-2000 design and done away with the shorter 5.9in model that used to be what the SCAR and 416 models were.

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    Did you read the link?

    In their printed catalog the following is on each page:

    M4-2000 Mod08
    16.25oz.
    6.625" long
    4" added to weapon
    1.50" diameter
    SCARmor finish
    Ratcher Fast Attach
    36dB sound reduction
    Inconcel 718 & 316SS
    NSN 1005-01-543-4656
    MSRP $895

    416-SD Mod08
    16.25oz.
    6.625" long
    4" added to weapon
    1.50" diameter
    SCARmor finish
    Ratcher Fast Attach
    36dB sound reduction
    Inconcel 718 & 316SS
    MSRP $895

    The pictures look identical, but from a different angle.

    The SCAR-SD does not show the ratchet attachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    Did you read the link?

    In their printed catalog the following is on each page:
    I did read the link. What I'm saying is that the 416-SD and SCAR-SD in the 2008 catalog are totally different than what is currently shown on the AAC website.

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