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    Quote Originally Posted by bullittmcqueen View Post
    Then why post? Nothing wrong with posting something you bought if you want to review it or back up assumptions or beliefs with real world results. But why post something assuming it will be locked?
    I didn't want/mean to start a shitstorm. I didn't assume anything.

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    On a 'survivalist' forum there is another Delton fan that swears by his purchase, claiming it is a mil-spec AR.......he too is unaware of their shortcomings....but that doesn't stop him from claiming it's just as good as a (insert one of the top 5 AR makers here).

    There is an old saying that is as true today as it ever was: "You get what you pay for".

    Just remember, that there is a reason 1 AR15 cost $700 and why another one that looks just like it (from the outside) will cost $1500. It's usually the materials used and how those materials were prepared for use in an AR15, 2 things you normally can't tell by looking at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunzilla View Post
    On a 'survivalist' forum there is another Delton fan that swears by his purchase, claiming it is a mil-spec AR.......he too is unaware of their shortcomings....but that doesn't stop him from claiming it's just as good as a (insert one of the top 5 AR makers here).

    There is an old saying that is as true today as it ever was: "You get what you pay for".

    Just remember, that there is a reason 1 AR15 cost $700 and why another one that looks just like it (from the outside) will cost $1500. It's usually the materials used and how those materials were prepared for use in an AR15, 2 things you normally can't tell by looking at it.
    I completely understand and I have never said it was in the same realm as the well known brands.

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    Just keep it lubed, do a thorough cleaning & inspection after each range session and consider upgrading when you have the funds available. In the meantime, focus on accuracy and proper technique when you shoot it. Just sending rounds downrange in a haphazard fashion may be fun, but it's not conducive to being a good shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Just keep it lubed, do a thorough cleaning & inspection after each range session and consider upgrading when you have the funds available. In the meantime, focus on accuracy and proper technique when you shoot it. Just sending rounds downrange in a haphazard fashion may be fun, but it's not conducive to being a good shooter.
    upgrading the components of the rifle or upgrading to a new rifle?


    Funds weren't really an issue in the purchase. Is the quality of the lower that bad where I shouldn't even consider keeping that?

    Honest questions.

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    As long as the lower is within machining tolerances, (all the springs and pins fit where they are supposed to fit), you should be fine.
    You can install a quality lower parts kit later, it is not as important as the upper.

    The upper is the heart and soul of the rifle.
    The bolt and barrel are huge in terms of the quality of the rifle.
    Proper chamber dimensions, gas port diameter, and materials used are very, very important.
    Parts ain't parts, and mil-spec is not the lowest bidder but the minimum standards that must be met.
    Del-ton doesn't meet many of these minimum standards.

    Buying a new upper is like buying a new rifle.
    You can buy different uppers to serve different purposes.
    For now, buy a quality bolt carrier group, (preferably with the heavier full auto carrier), and keep the Del-ton as back up.
    Buy a heavier buffer as the Del-ton barrel is very likely over gassed.
    Keep it well lubed and watch for signs of pressure when shooting 5.56 pressure ammo.
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    Anybody that owns or sells pistol versions of assault rifles is a bottom feeder, irregardless of the ban status of certain ammunition.

    They are illigetimate weapons that have no real purpose other than to attract retards to the gun community.

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    in all reality, since youre not going to war with it, you can correct any problems if they arise. just go out and enjoy your rifle, it should hold up to your wants just fine. if anything breaks, replace it with BCM or the like and youll be in buisness

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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    As long as the lower is within machining tolerances, (all the springs and pins fit where they are supposed to fit), you should be fine.
    You can install a quality lower parts kit later, it is not as important as the upper.

    The upper is the heart and soul of the rifle.
    The bolt and barrel are huge in terms of the quality of the rifle.
    Proper chamber dimensions, gas port diameter, and materials used are very, very important.
    Parts ain't parts, and mil-spec is not the lowest bidder but the minimum standards that must be met.
    Del-ton doesn't meet many of these minimum standards.

    Buying a new upper is like buying a new rifle.
    You can buy different uppers to serve different purposes.
    For now, buy a quality bolt carrier group, (preferably with the heavier full auto carrier), and keep the Del-ton as back up.
    Buy a heavier buffer as the Del-ton barrel is very likely over gassed.
    Keep it well lubed and watch for signs of pressure when shooting 5.56 pressure ammo.
    Is there any information where I can see a breakdown of what parts don't meet mil-spec standards? Going of off their website (which is obviously subjective) It lists the upper,lower and the bolt as all being "mil-spec".

    I completely understand what you are saying but I am confused on the specs of this rifle.

    I am not trying to be an ass. I just don't understand that if I cant trust certain information then whats the point?

    Just a little confused at this point. Everything I read on looking what to buy (barring from Brand Name) it seemed to have.

    I just thought that it would at least be "ok" to start with.

    Barrel:
    Chrome Moly Vanadium
    M4 Feed Ramps
    16" Length
    1x9 Twist
    A2 Flash Hider
    Manganese Phosphated
    Phosphated under Front Sight Base
    Taper Pins on F-Marked Front Sight Base
    Threaded Muzzle
    M4 Profile

    Chamber:
    5.56 X 45 mm

    Bolt And Carrier:
    Phosphated 8620 Steel Carrier Assembly
    Carpenter 158 Bolt HPT/MPI Tested
    Heat Treated and Plated
    Mil-Spec
    Chrome Lined Carrier Interior
    Carrier Key - chrome lined, attached with Grade 8 Screws
    Properly Staked & Sealed Gas Key

    Per their website:
    Upper Receiver:
    Forged 7075 T6 Aluminum
    Flat Top With M4 Feed Ramps
    Hard Coat Anodized
    Mil-Spec
    Ejection Port Cover and Round Forward Assist
    Right Hand Ejection
    Bore's surface is coated with dry film lube, over the anodized surface

    Lower Receiver:
    Forged 7075 T6 Aluminum
    Hard Coat Anodized
    Mil-Spec
    Aluminum Triggerguard
    Semi-Auto
    Aluminum Mag Catch Button

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    Quote Originally Posted by fury413rb View Post
    upgrading the components of the rifle or upgrading to a new rifle?


    Funds weren't really an issue in the purchase. Is the quality of the lower that bad where I shouldn't even consider keeping that?

    Honest questions.
    I would consider the upper more important than the lower considering that is where the bullet fires and exits the rifle, then upgrade to components of your lower. In the future you may want to change buffers, grip, add a BAD lever and swap out to a winter trigger guard.

    Uppers: you can't go wrong with BCM (Bravo Company), HUGE variety of configurations to choose from. They also make lowers now too, and they've been getting good reviews. BTW, a mil-spec barrel is 1/7 twist, just to be accurate.

    If your lower has an angle to the back end of the buffer tube you may even decide to change the buffer tube to the flat back mil-spec tube. I consider this to be important if you plan to have more than 1 AR and you buy a better mil-spec rifle next time.....then swapping parts becomes a non-issue.

    Don't get me wrong...lowers are important too but mostly because of the trigger and related springs.

    When you're ready for your next AR15 just ask here, you may get 5 different answers but ALL will (likely) be worthy answers that will put you into a fine AR.

    BTW, I wasn't accusing you of being like the other Delton owner...just pointing out his flawed thinking. Funny thing about him is he came onto that forum....asked what AR he should buy and nobody suggested Delton....but that's what he bought.
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    [QUOTE=Gunzilla;1439717
    BTW, I wasn't accusing you of being like the other Delton owner...just pointing out his flawed thinking. Funny thing about him is he came onto that forum....asked what AR he should buy and nobody suggested Delton....but that's what he bought. [/QUOTE]

    Well thats strange lol.

    It also has a flat back mil-spec tube.

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