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Thread: Is there a polite way to tell someone they bought a piece of crap AR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbills View Post
    Ok I had been talking with a friend about purchasing an AR. Today he came and told me he bought an AR. My first thought is sweet, but then he told me what he bought, a Bushmaster C15 556/.22 combo with two uppers from Dick's. I tried to be nice and tell him I would give him some classes on shooting and talked a little about mil spec AR features, but didn't tell him he screwed up getting the setup. So how do I break it to him? Just be straight up and tell him, or go shooting with him, let him shoot my BCM and let him come to the conclusion on his own? Just curious if others have had this same thing happen to them and how they handled it.
    How about you just mind your own ****ing business, and as your "friend" shoots his gun and it eventually fails for (insert typical reason here), and he comes to you asking why and what he should do to repair it, HELP HIM LEARN. Some people need to DO to learn.

    No need to be a condescending prick because you think you bought a better tool then someone else.
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    I think there is a more important issue here. We (2nd Amendment community) need more, not less, people on our team. I believe we should focus on encouraging their participation in the community. Help them learn SAFETY FIRST. Then skill development, maybe join the NRA or a local shooting club/competition, and help them sense our desire to be inclusive regarding their foray into our sport. If they learn to enjoy the gun ownership experience, like any sport, they will grow in their knowledge and desire for more high end equipment. While their choice may not have been ideal, or even good, if the choice is already made, let it be and encourage. If it's a real POS, they will get an early education in FTF, FTE, drills etc...and move onward and upward to better equipment. There are more non gun owners than owners...we are a minority. Embrace, encourage, coach up, join our ranks...the equipment will follow.
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    I do agree 110% with this!!! When I go to my local gun range which I have been going to for years it is nice to see new people getting their range cards and even year memberships even though when I look over on the table and see a DPMS laying there.

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    IF I were you, as a friend I would let him know that he bought a not very good option but that you wish him the best with it, tell him that you will even teach him some basics, but as a friend that you are you would recommend X or Y. Sometimes that's what friends are for, they need to hear it and I rather tell him straight to the face that play it around him.
    Last edited by mikelowrey; 11-18-12 at 18:17.
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    This what I usually say.

    And then you can see a typical response.

    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7&postcount=32

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    At this point, I say we shouldn't care about people buying DPMSs and Bushmasters. Who cares? If he or she wants to get a POS that will fail, let them.

    I know someone who never shoots tell me that he just bought another Bushmaster and that he was all ready for any SHTF situation. What did I say? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It isn't my job to educate him or tell him that he has a POS. Since he doesn't really shoot, his gun probably won't do him any good anyway. The way I see it? It isn't any of my business and help usually isn't appreciated anyway.

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    Support your friend! Help him keep his gun running. It is important not to let Internet logic influence your decision making, don't rub his face in his mistake. Teach, assist, and be a blessing to him! Rude people make poor friends and drive away new shooters. Don't be an obstacle to him staying in the shooting community.

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    If he's a no-it-all, screw him. If he's willing to listen/learn, explain the differences and value-added parts. I'm the type of person who will save, save, save until I can afford the best (best is subjective).

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    Shoot and train with him. Help him with his gun and educate him along the way. Don't do it in a condescending manner. When he's ready for another rifle, help him select one based on his needs or help him select components and build it.

    The way I see it, the more commonplace guns get, the better for our 2A rights.

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    +1 to all the guys that say mind your own business and let him run it.

    As a range RSO anytime I see a guy at the range running a Bushy or other "lessor" AR I still treat them with respect until they show me a reason not to. At the range I'm concerned with safety #1 and everything else after that. I WANT people to shoot. I want people to like the sport. Coming across as arrogant about whatever they bought is not a way to get new people into the culture. If they decide to stick with it and do more than shoot targets from the bench at the range, then it's time to gently guide them toward the light.

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