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Thread: Is there a polite way to tell someone they bought a piece of crap AR?

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    No because they will almost always take it as a personal attack on their judgement. I've learned that all you can do is share your knowledge when asked and let them live with their decision. Ten Mile and Dustin gave good advice in just being there to assist and teach them as they need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4
    How about you just mind your own ****ing business
    No need to be a condescending prick because you think you bought a better tool then someone else.
    There was no intent to be a condescending prick. That is why it said is there a polite way. If there is none than nothing would be said. Who sounds like a condescending prick here?

    That was the plan, to show him to shoot, how to run drills and teach him more about the platform. If something breaks show him how to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    We have had many threads like this and in the end no good comes if it. If they don't want to listen nothing you say will change their minds. Its just like idiots who recommend birdshot because of the devastating wounds.

    moment of truth and humility....

    The guy that taught the CCW class I attended told the class that a shotgun with birdshot was the best home defense firearm to have. I actually believed him and even said it here on this forum one day. IG basically called me an idiot and it made me mad...let's face it, no one likes being called an idiot. Then I did what I should have done long before....I did some research, hoping to find something to use in my defense. What I found is that I was in fact an idiot. So....IG maybe your public relations skills are a little rough around the edges....but you still deserve the credit you deserve. Thanks for making me think.....

    now back to normal programming

    Just tell him he's an idiot. He will either get mad and learn something, or get mad and stay an idiot.
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    Why don't you just leave him alone? I see folks with Stevens bolt action rifles, Delton ARs, Taurus revolvers and pistols, Ruger rifles, Ruger pistols, Ford cars, all kinds of shit, every week. They all think their toy is the greatest thing since bottled beer. Why spoil their fun?
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    I would wait till it breaks down and he wants to know why, or until he asks what your opinion is and offer him factual info and not just "Bushmaster's are crap". No reason to crap in his cornflakes just cause you can.

    We can beat people in the face with the TDP, but until they see a cheap AR fail, most will continue to believe that a $700 hobby grade off the rack AR is just as good as the Colt's, BCM's, Daniel Defense etc. Some people are best left to wallow in the sweet bliss of their ignorance.

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    Just shoot with him and trade off now and then, he will learn and I'm willing to bet he will outgrow his AR( or it will piss out on him) and then he look onto a BCM Colt or DD..

    Send him to this forum to read up... He will get an education realllll quick


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    I usually just say "Yeah, that oughta work..." If I end up at the range with 'em (unlikely), I just try to keep from getting muzzled.

    I don't really care to 'enlighten' anyone, I like what I like, they can buy whatever...

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    I bought a PSA carbine to see how well it'd run. My buddy has a Colt 6920 that he doesn't baby and we run our rifles side by side. Another buddy has one of those folding Keltech carbines in 5.56. Being polymer, I had my doubts about the rifle but no practical experience with them. All three of us ran our carbines like kids with 10/22s and a case of daddy's ammo. Both ARs ran fine but the the poor Keltech broke in half right at the grip and Keltech had to replace it. My buddy with the Keltech carbine is a smart man. He'll make up his own mind what to do about this situation without me saying a word. I value his friendship too much to pull any kind of "I told you so" on him (and I know how I'd feel if my pride & joy fell apart).

    Bottom line is, we make our decisions. We go shoot and our rifles either work, or they don't, and when they don't, it's up to us to take the right course of action. Just go shoot and see what happens. That's the best way to handle it
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    OK, I'll take a stab at this. If he's a know-it-all who gets defensive when you contradict him, say nothing. If he's a good guy who just doesn't know, I'd recommend this approach.

    Ask him if he'd like a cleaning/informational session with you. Have him bring his rifle over and teach him how to properly disassemble it. Show him what things to look for. If his carrier key isn't staked properly, help him do it. Show him the areas that tend to fail and what to look for. Explain the signs that a carbine is overgassed and what he can do. Recommend spare parts and who to get them from. Most of all, show him lubrication points and how much to use. I recently did this with my cousin to great effect. He subsequently ditched the RRA and built a PSA lower with a BCM LW middy upper.

    In the end, you'll be helping him learn the ins and outs of the platform and what to look for in the future if he gets another one, without directly attacking his purchase. Finally, if he wants to learn more, email him a link to this forum.

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    I say enlighten them and give them guidence before he buys, but after the deed is done, support their training and sport even if you do not support their firearms choice. I myself own a DPMS and I'm happy with it. I understand their are some flaws with it but I only put about 500 rounds a year through it and at that rate I think it will last me a long time before I see major issues.

    I understand the trigger pins are weak. No problem, I'll get better pins. I also understand the bolts have issues. I'll replace the bolt with a better quality bolt. The next time I will choose a better product.

    If you were talking to him before he bought and he bought something you advised him against buying, let him learn the hard way. You did your part. Let it go at that. kwg

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