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Thread: Is there a polite way to tell someone they bought a piece of crap AR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    We have had many threads like this and in the end no good comes if it. If they don't want to listen nothing you say will change their minds. Its just like idiots who recommend birdshot because of the devastating wounds.
    No shit.... You know how I feel about that one.
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    I am surprised that you would come to this forum to ask that question. Almost daily someone comes here to post about their new AR and are subsequently berated for purchasing a sub-par AR. If you are looking for polite, you have come to the wrong place. Only tough love here.
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    +1 on just not saying anything

    I have a guy who just bought an M&P Sport over a Colt I recommended because the store had it in stock NOW. I like the Sports just fine, I think they're the best deal for under 700 from a mfg out there right now, they aren't milspec but I've seen 4 that seemed to work just fine and don't have the tell-tale issues of DPMS, RRA, etc. That doesn't mean I'd recommend them heavily, but to some people it's a good option.

    Fact is, that Bushmaster will probably work fine for him. Not everyone should drive a Ferrari. I've found that about 10% of people listen to AR advice at all, and there is no sense telling them otherwise pre or post purchase.

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    "Is there a polite way to tell someone they bought a piece of crap AR?"

    Depends on why you are telling them. If you are just rubbing in that yours is better, its pointless. If you are telling them as a friend, try educating them, and let them understand themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    We have had many threads like this and in the end no good comes if it. If they don't want to listen nothing you say will change their minds. Its just like idiots who recommend birdshot because of the devastating wounds.

    Without getting into many details, I was on a call where a 16 YOA female put a 12 gauge against her chest and shot herself. It probably took 15 or 20 minutes to get her to the hospital where she died on the table. This was an upper chest contact shot with birdshot as the ammo. If birdshot can't stop a 16 YOA female who is upset about a breakup, it isn't going to stop anyone motivated to kill you when used at distance.
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    Ask your friend if he has seen this:

    Larry Vickers on setting up a carbine.

    By seeing LAV's recommended set up, he might start to think about his choice.
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    A friend of mine called me today and asked me if he should get the SIG AR at Wal-Mart over the 6920 as his first because it was 200 cheaper and had Magpul furniture on it.

    I told him to pay the extra money and get the Colt. The furniture was a nice but not a need to have thing. When you buy a rifle, first and foremost, you are buying the guts. He didn't like it but he finally agreed I was right.

    I told him if he could ask Larry Vickers which of the two to get, he would be asked in turn if he needed a piss test, GUARENTEED!!! The light finally came on.

    If you want to get experimental, that's fine, just not for your first and only AR. The SIG may be an ok rife but I would not want to bet the farm on it as it is as of yet unproven on the market.

    At least he was NOT considering the DPMS and the Bushmaster.
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    I find that most people I have had similar discussions after their purchase were not very receptive...up to and including guys I work with (LE).

    I tend to agree with the post that said it will do fine for the 100 rds a year he fires.
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    After the purchase, they are looking for validation. You have to stop stupid before it shits.

    After the fact, nod, smile politely and hope you are around when their cost-cutter special shits the bed so you can at least get a "I told you so!" out of the deal.
    Last edited by Heavy Metal; 11-18-12 at 17:45.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    We have had many threads like this and in the end no good comes if it. If they don't want to listen nothing you say will change their minds. Its just like idiots who recommend birdshot because of the devastating wounds.
    It IS devestating...to the bird that gets shot.

    OP, who cares? Your buddy's money, his call to make. He'll either shoot it a few times a year and it'll be just fine, or he'll shoot it a lot and decide he needs a better AR.

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