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Shot placement is power- Stephen A. Camp
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I agree with the above posts. I have an HSGI war belt that I set up primarily for training and sometimes wear hiking in remote areas. Were I to find myself in a situation where I had to move from point A to point B during a crisis, I would go with a rig that attracts the least attention.
I have an Eagle LE three mag chest rig that I can zip up a jacket over if the situation calls for it (and weather permits). This, a Glock 19 in a kydex pancake holster, a spare pistol and rifle magazine, and a light pack would be my "heavy" loadout for a bad day.
You could stash your pack, rifle and chest rig if you had to go really low profile and still be armed.
ETA:
You may also wish to re-visit having six rifle magazines as your standard loadout. That is roughly 7-8 pounds of ammo on your body. Keep two or three of those magazines in your Camelbak if you feel you will need that much ammunition.
Last edited by AZ-Renegade; 11-19-12 at 16:55.
Good judgment comes from experience. And experience… well, that comes from poor judgment.
I would steer clear of a chest rig with a built in pack or bladder pouch. If you are driving or riding in a vehicle it can get uncomfortable quick. It's also added weight you can't shed without losing most of your magazines.
I recommend a low profile 3-4 mag chest rig. They are easier to go prone with and are more easily concealed than a rig with double magazine pouches.
Good judgment comes from experience. And experience… well, that comes from poor judgment.
You will not need, use, or want full battle rattle in scenarios you're going to encounter. Add layers of increasing capability to your basic EDC methods, such as additional pouches to your existing belt, a backpack, a battle bag of some sort, a chest rig, etc. Be concealed, be discreet, be smart. Doing otherwise will at least call attention to yourself, and is likely to identify you as a problem.
Build your preps around your CCW handgun(s). It's what you'll have.
Train in what you use and what you'll have every day.
Look at what you're seeing...and NOT seeing...in pics, footage, and reports from NOLA and the Sandy-impacted areas.
Last edited by ST911; 11-19-12 at 17:37.
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I second focusing on the low-profile CCW option, but don't think that is a complete strategy. I can speak to what I saw in Katrina.
Lots of guns, most tucked just out of sight. Sometimes not.
Sometimes very, very evident armed persons to demonstrate they were not a soft target.
One Mississippi fellow I ran into pulled out three separate pistols in the course of a friendly 15-minute conversation (Glock, Jetfire and a NAA-Mini). The first open Target store I ran across had a pair of tactically-outfitted officers at the front door.
Full battle rattle isn't going to work on a government-sponsored train, bus or plane evacuation. Whereas a moderate appearance of armed competence to protect your home, business or neighborhood at a critical point might make all the difference. I'm not a tin-foiler, die-in-place, SHTF zombie killer, but there may be a time for different defensive postures.
I've got a MOLLE belt set-up to supplement a rifle - two mag carriers, knife and flashlight. My feeling is a lower-profile MOLLE belt rig isn't going to stick out any more than the rifle you are holding. Keep your smile and war face near at hand too.
Last edited by HardToHandle; 11-19-12 at 20:47.
I prefer a chest rig for vehicle use. Battle belt gets in the way while seated, hard to reach pistol and mags if you're belted in.
Opposite is true of dismounted.
I guess what I should say is this will be used at the range.
The shtf is an after thought. To be more than honest, during that situation a 3 mag chest rig under a jacket would be great. Anything else like a IFAK or extra mags could be stuffed in pockets etc.
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maybe we're thinking about two different things but my "battle belt" can't be rolled up. to me, a battle belt is a "first line" - everything I need to carry the fight with a carbine and it's a pretty bulky deal all set up with pistol, 2 AR and 3 pistol mags, small fixed blade knife, IFAK, 3x5 general purpose pouch, cool tool, and spare light.
I have run carbine/pistol classes with just this and no chest rig and it works great. or at home, I keep it buckled and slung over the top of the closet door and as Doug says, this can be just thrown over a shoulder like a bandoleer and I have everything I need instantly for a bump in the night.
a lot of people are recommending a lighter belt setup with a CCW-flavor and I see the benefit of that. I have a duty belt set up like this with just a holster, 1 AR mag, 2 pistol mags, and mini IFAK paired with a light chest rig for a more concealable option. if you need, add a third line/pack for additional ammo, water, and sustainment supplies.
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