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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Can you tell me when this was?



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    it was sold to Freedom Group in 2006, who also owns: DMPS, H&R, TAPCO, Remington and a handful of other companies...

    Did you really not know that or are you trying to troll me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeb44 View Post
    it was sold to Freedom Group in 2006, who also owns: DMPS, H&R, TAPCO, Remington and a handful of other companies...

    Did you really not know that or are you trying to troll me?
    You missed the question (even though I bolded what you said).

    You said that they (BM) used to make quality guns. I asked you when did BM ever make a quality AR??


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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    There was never a time when Bushmaster made good guns... They've produced functional stuff and USED to be the only option aside from COLT.

    The Pawl roll pin breaking is quite uncommon, but I've heard of it happening. It's the reason some lunatics don't want a FA on their guns.... kind of like not leaving your house because you could be in a car wreck or get hit by lightning.
    That may be true too. I know the market has exploded the past few years, but I have always heard Bushmaster made good guns until they got bought out. But what do I know I'm still learning every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeb44 View Post
    That may be true too. I know the market has exploded the past few years, but I have always heard Bushmaster made good guns until they got bought out. But what do I know I'm still learning every day!
    Who did you hear this from (that BM made quality guns)?



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You missed the question (even though I bolded what you said).

    You said that they (BM) used to make quality guns. I asked you when that was.


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    I do not know, this is just what I have heard. I shot a few way back in the day and they seemed great as well. But I did not know much about them then. I just have never heard bad things of BM until they got bought out and of recent, seems like they are being bashed all the time now. The reviews of Windham I have heard have been great as well. But everyone has their own opinion. I'll find out how nice this upper is after I have used it for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Who did you hear this from (that BM made quality guns)?



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    A lot of people over the years, gun owners, gun store employees, online articles etc. But this was before they got bought out. All I hear now are bad reviews of bushmaster as it stands now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeb44 View Post
    A lot of people over the years, gun owners, gun store employees, online articles etc.
    We (gun owners/shooters) have access to MUCH better info about our ARs these days. Read around this site for a while and you'll pick up on a lot of things that Good ARs companies do that Bushmaster has never done.

    Gun store employees and articles are historically horrible sources for GOOD info.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeb44 View Post
    I do not know, this is just what I have heard. I shot a few way back in the day and they seemed great as well. But I did not know much about them then. I just have never heard bad things of BM until they got bought out and of recent, seems like they are being bashed all the time now. The reviews of Windham I have heard have been great as well. But everyone has their own opinion. I'll find out how nice this upper is after I have used it for a while.
    No one I know thinks that BM or WW makes a quality AR (including myself).

    Couple quick facts:

    1. Neither company follows the TDP.
    2. They use some of the cheapest parts they can find (as you found out).
    3. They do not properly assembly their weapons


    If you want a quality AR, look to Colt, Noveske, BCM, DD, KAC, LMT, etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeb44 View Post
    A lot of people over the years, gun owners, gun store employees, online articles etc. But this was before they got bought out. All I hear now are bad reviews of bushmaster as it stands now.
    Any reputable sources?



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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    We (gun owners/shooters) have access to MUCH better info about our ARs these days. Read around this site for a while and you'll pick up on a lot of things that Good ARs companies do that Bushmaster has never done.

    Gun store employees and articles are historically horrible sources for GOOD info.
    I am glad I joined. I plan on doing a lot of reading on this site. Are there any other good forums out there as well? How is http://www.ar15.com/forums/ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    No one I know thinks that BM or WW makes a quality AR (including myself).

    Couple quick facts:

    1. Neither company follows the TDP.
    2. They use some of the cheapest parts they can find (as you found out).
    3. They do not properly assembly their weapons


    If you want a quality AR, look to Colt, Noveske, BCM, DD, KAC, LMT, etc.



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    I like BCM, DD and Colt. Pricey, but nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Any reputable sources?



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    Probably not, I don't remember though. Like I said it has been years.

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