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Thread: second to the p-mag... what's the best AR mag?

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    I prefer Okay Mags.....

    But IMHO PMAGS are not #1 AR mag on the market. That #1 Status belongs to HK AR Mags. Only pitfall is the price.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...m_campaign=655

    Just my .02c

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocMinster View Post
    I prefer Okay Mags.....

    But IMHO PMAGS are not #1 AR mag on the market. That #1 Status belongs to HK AR Mags. Only pitfall is the price.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...m_campaign=655

    Just my .02c

    Doc
    Care to elaborate? I've never had a malfunction with an HK mag, either, but men with far more rounds down range than I often disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickB View Post
    Care to elaborate? I've never had a malfunction with an HK mag, either, but men with far more rounds down range than I often disagree.
    I've had at least two malfunctions. Each time the follower failed to ride up quick enough to engage the bolt catch. I've heard this is because HK uses relatively weak springs that are prone to wear. Also, had an incident where going prone caused a feedlip deformation, nothing that prohibited proper feeding, but it bothered me enough to bend it back into alignment afterwards.

    My Pmags have never failed me, I'll continue to use them until they do (highly unlikely) or they need replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocMinster View Post
    I prefer Okay Mags.....

    But IMHO PMAGS are not #1 AR mag on the market. That #1 Status belongs to HK AR Mags. Only pitfall is the price.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...m_campaign=655

    Just my .02c

    Doc
    HK mags represent one of the lesser mags on the market. Here is why:

    1. Reliability is not there (especially with SBR's in the 10.5 realm).
    2. They can rust.
    3. Heavy.
    4. Big.
    5. Expensive.




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    For the unconverted (these videos did it for me):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXc...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BA-E...eature=related

    Oh and on the HK mags...from what I have seen C4IGrant's critism is spot on. Why not buy 2 or 3 Pmags instead of one HK mag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    These would be my next choice.


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    I agree with Grant. The Lancer mag is really looking like a player in the quality magazine department.
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    Yes I agree..

    Quote Originally Posted by decodeddiesel View Post
    For the unconverted (these videos did it for me):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXc...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BA-E...eature=related

    Oh and on the HK mags...from what I have seen C4IGrant's critism is spot on. Why not buy 2 or 3 Pmags instead of one HK mag?

    I have not used an HK But held one... I have heard that they malfunction flawless...as for the rusting I dont know anything about that this is the first time I have heard anything about rusting of the HK mag.
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    $$$$ is the issue...man $45-55 on average to damn expensive for me.

    PMAGS are leaps and bounds better than the old Thermold mags. The ONLY problem with them is the need to use that dust cover thing when storing them long periods of time. I guess they are afraid of feed lip distortion...a definite draw back as 90% of feed failures are due to a bad Mag.

    Like I said ...
    That is why I hoarded and prefer the Okay Mags I have a few Colt mags too ... same animal though.


    Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocMinster View Post
    I have not used an HK But held one...
    The people that criticize the HK mags have put literally thousands of rounds downrange with them, and compared them to other magazines that they have also put thousands of rounds down range with.

    These are not new issues to people that have exposure to these magazines under other than hobbyist interest.

    Why give accolade to a product that you have not used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    HK mags represent one of the lesser mags on the market. Here is why:

    1. Reliability is not there (especially with SBR's in the 10.5 realm).
    2. They can rust.
    3. Heavy.
    4. Big.
    5. Expensive.
    I was giving one of the instructors an 08 Magpul catalogue last week. (he's not just firearms... defensive tactics, handcuffs, etc.)

    Anyway, I asked him if he'd tried the Pmag yet.... "No. Not yet... I like those HK high reliability mags", he says. I didn't even bother trying to debate the HKs with him. (he also has a DPMS AR that he's qualified on)
    "What would a $2,000 Geissele Super Duty do that a $500 PSA door buster on Black Friday couldn't do?" - Stopsign32v

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocMinster View Post
    IPMAGS are leaps and bounds better than the old Thermold mags. The ONLY problem with them is the need to use that dust cover thing when storing them long periods of time.
    There is no NEED to do this. It's just an option. There have already been mags stored for 8 plus months, fully loaded, with no affect on the feed lips or mag body.
    "What would a $2,000 Geissele Super Duty do that a $500 PSA door buster on Black Friday couldn't do?" - Stopsign32v

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