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    Quote Originally Posted by warpigM-4 View Post
    the whole no sells to the public gets me I think colt really turned their back on civillian shooters for a while .
    This is what really bothers me. The last time I bought a colt AR it was a pre-ban competition sporter hbar. After I started looking for a new AR, a carbine, and I realised Colt didn't want civilians with their guns, it was a huge turn off. I would rather spend a couple hundred extra and get the Noveske without all that for Military and Law enforcement only BS pasted on the side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottp999 View Post
    I realised Colt didn't want civilians with their guns,
    I'm curious to know how you came to this realization?

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    .... and the trap is set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'm curious to know how you came to this realization?
    well are all the colt M-4 model all marked" LEO and MILITARY ONLY"?thats all I have seen.I have owned a Colt sp1 .so I am not a "Colt basher"the upper are starting to get into the shooters hands again .But that is mostly dealers who have bought from colt.I am sure i don't know the whole story .I just remember when the ban hit in 94 .a ton of people were blasting Colt on their lack of concern for the CMP world and focused on just its Military contract.I have seen your post Rob ,You know your AR History and products.why do you think so many think this of colt did we get false info?I loved my Colt M-4 in the Army .I wish i could get a colt but the money is just not there right now.but I also don't believe that Colt is the ONLY Ar-15/M-16 .There are other companies putting out some good AR platforms.Oh and be gentle with me I am new.But always have my learning ears on.


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    First I want to dispell any notion that I'm a "Colt only" guy. Just a couple of posts back I mentioned that the M&P15 is a great buy.

    With that said, I don't know about the past history of Colt, all I know is that I've never had a problem buying any Colt product I wanted, unless they just happened to be out of stock/production. I don't know where the notion that they are "anti-second-amendment" came from. All of my Colts (6520s and 6933s) were marked "Military and Law Enforcement Only", but all came with cards to join the NRA.

    Colt has never done anything to me to indicate that they don't want me to have their products, and their inclusion of the NRA information makes me think just the opposite.

    I'm just always curious to hear where people get the opposing notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'm curious to know how you came to this realization?
    Why can I not buy a gun that legally meets the criteria for civilian ownership without the companies stamp on it that it's not for my use? Maybe I don't want the MT6400C. I am not bashing the quality of their product, it is excellent and I do own one of their civilian marketed Sporter rifles I bougt in 1992.

    I understand I can go buy a 6920 or remington 1187P, I just wonder what's the motivation to stamp these things the way they do. If the LE and Military models have better features why don't they leave the stamp off, and why are they not also on the civilan site (colts mfg) instead of just Colt defense? The company made those choices and people read things into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottp999 View Post
    Why can I not buy a gun that legally meets the criteria for civilian ownership without the companies stamp on it that it's not for my use? Maybe I don't want the MT6400C. I am not bashing the quality of their product, it is excellent and I do own one of their civilian marketed Sporter rifles I bougt in 1992.
    I think maybe you're misunderstanding the stamp. Is that the whole basis of your opinion?

    Is there anything in Colt's policy that keeps you from buying the firearm in question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I think maybe you're misunderstanding the stamp. Is that the whole basis of your opinion?

    Is there anything in Colt's policy that keeps you from buying the firearm in question?
    No, see that is the whole point. I know I can legally buy it, but the company likes to put a stamp on it that it's not for my use. Why do they put the stamp on it when it doesn't need it? They must be making that statement for some reason? Why is the exact same gun not listed on the Colt's Manufacturing site (civilian) if it's legal for us to own? Why did they make that choice?
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    That is an interesting point. Why do manufactures still stamp their lowers as "Restricted Military/Government Law Enforcement/Export Only"? I mean it is not an issue to the informed, such as the folks on this forum, as we are all aware with the sunset of the AWB. However I can tell you that I personally have been told by a local gun store owner that I could not purchase the Colt 6920 because of this marking. He insisted he would have to order one without the marking to sell me , so I went down the street and purchased an LMT Defender 2000 . Clearly mis-information abounds and it really make me wonder why many firearms (and magazine) manufactures still use this marking.

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    a guy I saw out shooting once was all about the big "Colt is evil"his theory (Not mine)was that stamp was a get out of jail free card for colt.that if a civilian got one of their weapons and used it in a crime ie McHold-up and shot a bunch of people ,that victims family could not sue Colt for making such a evil weapon.Colt clearly would state this is for LEO and Military only its clearly marked"what was he doing with it?Now I rolled my eyes and packed my guns(1colt sp1) up and left.I think that the demand for LEO sales were not a big seller and that this is the overstock.that stamp means nothing now the Ban has sunset right?But if they are still stamping the lowers with this on new production


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