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    don't get me wrong Colt is the Gun that is the top of the food chain in Ar platform(well Hk p416 is badass too)The price and the whole no sells to the public gets me I think colt really turned their back on civillian shooters for a while .But if i can find good price colt products, I buy knowing that this product is good to go,But i have ran into a few that are those people that don't want to hear anything about a gun being as good as a colt look at Bushmaster in our training we had some bushmasters at Knox and thats got to hurt Colt.you know also when buy used Ar parts that when you see Colt's name in the part you know this part will last and take some abuse.I just bought a colt carry handle to go on my build and colt h buffer .I guess you always have hardcore folks but you can get good parts from other dealers too.But Colt will always have the best QC


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    Quote Originally Posted by warpigM-4 View Post
    . . .But i have ran into a few that are those people that don't want to hear anything about a gun being as good as a colt look at Bushmaster . . .
    Sorry to piss in your Cheerios, but Bushamster is not in the same league as Colt, Noveske, or LMT. It might be fine for you, and that's ok, but they aren't made for fighting.

    I am glad that Bushmaster is in the business- they bring a lot of visability to the AR, and many new shooters into the scene.
    They just aren't in MY business.

    And sometimes it takes some time for that to sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Sorry to piss in your Cheerios, but Bushamster is not in the same league as Colt, Noveske, or LMT. .
    Not in my Cheerios !!!!I 'm not a big fan of Bushmaster either.I loved my Colt at Knox,But there are a few companies out there with good quality parts.I got a Double star lower after finding out LAR makes their lowers same company that does Bushmaster and a few others just didn't have to spend the money for their snake .the price was right and part looked to be good .Now I got to think about what to put on the top.Noveske and LMT are some of the best .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Sorry to piss in your Cheerios, but Bushamster is not in the same league as Colt, Noveske, or LMT. It might be fine for you, and that's ok, but they aren't made for fighting.

    I am glad that Bushmaster is in the business- they bring a lot of visability to the AR, and many new shooters into the scene.
    They just aren't in MY business.

    And sometimes it takes some time for that to sink in.

    Boy that is a hard one to get across. Seems in my office everyone is on the "we need ARs before O'Bama bans them" kick. So everyone is coming to me with which one should I get. Of course the usual players here are Oly, DPMS, and Bushmaster. Luckly one of my co-workers came across rob_s's excellent AR comparison chart on here. After an hour or so long sit down with them explaining what everything means on the chart I was able to sway most away from Oly/DPMS and into an LMT or Colt. Unfortunately given the price and rebate currently ongoing with the S&W ARs a few got away...oh well

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    Quote Originally Posted by decodeddiesel View Post
    Unfortunately given the price and rebate currently ongoing with the S&W ARs a few got away...oh well
    That is still much better than an OLY or DPMS. Any time you save someone from the OLY mistake, and Angel gets its wings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    The bottom line is that COLTs are built to a higher standard. It's not even debateable.
    Thanks for that. I have engaged in that debate a few times with some "Colt Bashers", who seem to fall back on the "Colt screwed us" position, when the try and make the point that "all AR's are the same"...Jesus. I used to wax poetic about how laying on a table full of other AR's, my Colt stood out - fit, finish, quality, function, accuracy - there was no mistaking it. I may have an opportunity to buy it back soon and hope to....

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    Quote Originally Posted by decodeddiesel View Post
    Unfortunately given the price and rebate currently ongoing with the S&W ARs a few got away...oh well
    I see nothing wrong with this option, as long as they stick with the non-railed version (unless S&W has gotten a handle on those wayward gas blocks). With the $100 rebate, the M&P15 is a FANTASTIC buy from most vendors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I see nothing wrong with this option, as long as they stick with the non-railed version (unless S&W has gotten a handle on those wayward gas blocks). With the $100 rebate, the M&P15 is a FANTASTIC buy from most vendors.
    Hey rob, just have to say that chart of yours made my life a lot easier. Thanks a lot man!

    I agree it is a fantastic buy, and given they are all engineers at my company, most of the those rifles will see nothing more then throwing ammo at paper and steel at our test site. So in this capability the S&W A-OK. And yes, I talked them out of the railed version.

    ETA: I guess that old soldier deep down inside of me has a hard-on for Colt, and is very impressed with his LMT.

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    I can't even begin to count the number of times I have begun to post to threads on several boards similar to the one you mentioned, and then canceled them before submitting, because I didn't feel like having to defend for four pages the opinion that they asked for.

    It's not like you walk up to em on the range and say, " Hey, excuse me, did you know your rifle was a steaming pile of inproperly assembled SH&^?". If they don't really want to know, then don't ask.

    If all you want is an ego stroke, go show your POS off at the local airsoft, paintball, flea-market, discount bait and tackle shop.

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    I think the problem comes down to no one wants to admit that they are wrong or made a mistake. I would also venture to say that a large majority don't buy their AR's for serious business and don't do their research. They figure that they'll spend a little less and cut a few corners to save money. I have guys all the time that say "Well I have a Bushhamster at home and it never gives me problems." My response is work in the armory for a couple of weeks and see all the issues that they have and then look at what the TM's and you'll clearly see the shortcuts they take. I try and give the guys and advanced class every so often and when I am done they usually go "WOW!" I didn't realize how screwed up that thing really is.

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