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    Quote Originally Posted by 308sako View Post
    In fairness, the rifle was rested for the 400 yard shots.
    Thank God. I was about to sell all my weapons and take up knitting.

    On a serious note: What ACOG is that? BDC used on the 400 yd shots? How far off with this short barrel/suppressed setup?
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    I love it !!I think it is very cool she is a shooter .I got my wife shooting she had never seen a M4 up close til she met me .Now she can shoot better than a few Guys I know .still bugs me for a rifle of her own

    I think it is a positive thing the More women we can get into shoot sports and self defense ,the greater our numbers will be and less stories of women Being raped or abused .Outstanding !!!!


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    Very cool.

    My wife doesn't like the AR, but she can knock down clays all day on the trap field and prefers my 1911 to my 9mm glocks. I just don't get it. She says the rifle and 9mm's don't feel real, so I guess she can just keep on keepin' on with the heavy metal.
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    My wife is finally getting confortable (and enjoying) shooting a 9MM Glock. Rifle is next.

    Still haven't seen her get the proper mindset to actually USE it, though...
    "Those who do can't explain; those who don't can't understand"...

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    In the other thread I mentioned I would do a 12.5" just to get the extra rail length of an 11" rail. Someone commented how she's just a girl and has shorter arms or something... Sure looks like she could utilize the extra rail length / hand real estate.

    That 2nd picture without gloves looks like a quickly toasty finger.... wait is that a finger? I don't know, even if it isn't it looks to me like she could use a little more hand room.
    Last edited by Noodles; 12-06-12 at 13:04.

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    I had a lot of fun and I appreciate the opportunity from Dave to further my education on how exactly I want to build my 11.5 SBR. I loved how accurate his set up was and it was such joy to shoot. Thank you so very much Dave for letting me come out and test everything out!

    I think I've got it all worked out now and how exactly I want to build mine now!

    I am not a new shooter (just new to building my own SBR)
    I really want to get up to the level where I can start instructing ladies....I've been an avid shooter for the past 9 yrs and am in love with shooting and continuously strive to learn and develop my skills.
    It's a passion of mine to get ladies more educated and trained properly.

    I can take instruction from anyone, male or female, but a lot of ladies get intimidated by macho males that talk down to them, or they get bad experiences from their spouse or boyfriend. I know I couldn't learn a damn thing from my ex, he was an impatient instructor and couldn't grasp the fact that because I have a lower center of gravity, slim long fingers, big boobs and smaller frame, I just couldn't exactly copy his "way" of holding/gripping/stance and handling of a firearm.

    But given the proper instruction from a patient qualified teacher, I got trained the right way and fell in love with it. I started off shooting 40cal (Glock 23), then moved to 45s (Glock 36 and HK45c).

    2 years ago I got into rifles and now I'm hooked on doing more long distance work. My arsenal is a Glock 21, Glock 19, HK45c (my beloved LOL), a Springfield TRP, an LMT MWS (.308), a Noveske Lo Pro (14.5/pinned 16) and waiting on my tax stamp for my SBR.


    Most women who get into shooting for personal protection buy a gun that they don't get real extensive training with, may get a CCW but never practice shooting on the move, drawing from concealed, or go over real life scenarios. It's a mission of mine to get more ladies out at the range, properly and safely trained, and get them to learn and have fun!

    Thanks again to everyone who has given me their honest advice and help with all my questions on this forum....It's great to be a girl and come on here to M4 and be taken seriously and not talked down to or dismissed like on other forums. Just because I look like a Barbie doesn't mean I'm not a hard core serious shooter....
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    Please read this linked post

    Quote Originally Posted by 5cary View Post
    Thank God. I was about to sell all my weapons and take up knitting.

    On a serious note: What ACOG is that? BDC used on the 400 yd shots? How far off with this short barrel/suppressed setup?
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=111497

    TAO 1NSN, the ACOG reticle is calibrated for 62 grain bullets from an M4's 14.5 inch barrel, the load works out to be a M193 variant or 55 grain at 2850 ft/secs (specifically Nosler Ballistic Tip) from this 11.5" barrel. This load is within 1/2 MOA or less at all four ranges to 400 yards. The curious thing is that the ACOG is set in meters, a happy coincidence for sure.
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    Anytime Sarah

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah View Post
    I had a lot of fun and I appreciate the opportunity from Dave to further my education on how exactly I want to build my 11.5 SBR. I loved how accurate his set up was and it was such joy to shoot. Thank you so very much Dave for letting me come out and test everything out!

    I think I've got it all worked out now and how exactly I want to build mine now!

    I am not a new shooter (just new to building my own SBR)
    I really want to get up to the level where I can start instructing ladies....I've been an avid shooter for the past 9 yrs and am in love with shooting and continuously strive to learn and develop my skills.
    It's a passion of mine to get ladies more educated and trained properly.

    I can take instruction from anyone, male or female, but a lot of ladies get intimidated by macho males that talk down to them, or they get bad experiences from their spouse or boyfriend. I know I couldn't learn a damn thing from my ex, he was an impatient instructor and couldn't grasp the fact that because I have a lower center of gravity, slim long fingers, big boobs and smaller frame, I just couldn't exactly copy his "way" of holding/gripping/stance and handling of a firearm.

    But given the proper instruction from a patient qualified teacher, I got trained the right way and fell in love with it. I started off shooting 40cal (Glock 23), then moved to 45s (Glock 36 and HK45c).

    2 years ago I got into rifles and now I'm hooked on doing more long distance work. My arsenal is a Glock 21, Glock 19, HK45c (my beloved LOL), a Springfield TRP, an LMT MWS (.308), a Noveske Lo Pro (14.5/pinned 16) and waiting on my tax stamp for my SBR.


    Most women who get into shooting for personal protection buy a gun that they don't get real extensive training with, may get a CCW but never practice shooting on the move, drawing from concealed, or go over real life scenarios. It's a mission of mine to get more ladies out at the range, properly and safely trained, and get them to learn and have fun!

    Thanks again to everyone who has given me their honest advice and help with all my questions on this forum....It's great to be a girl and come on here to M4 and be taken seriously and not talked down to or dismissed like on other forums. Just because I look like a Barbie doesn't mean I'm not a hard core serious shooter....
    Sarah, you made my day and expanded my knowledge of my own incantations... When the urge gets you to want to come out and play, you know you are more than welcome.

    Best
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    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah View Post
    I am not a new shooter (just new to building my own SBR)
    Oh thank god. Otherwise I was gonna retire.

    I have a lower center of gravity, slim long fingers, big boobs and smaller frame, I just couldn't exactly copy his "way" of holding/gripping/stance and handling of a firearm.
    You're asking for a flooded inbox.



    Seriously, you look like you are good to go stance wise. Most females don't grow up shooting, hunting or emulating "action stars" so handing them a gun can be a lot like handing a guy some yarn and knitting needles. Without some basic instruction we aren't going to have a clue and the first sweater might not come out exactly as intended.

    More importantly, and I'm assuming you've figured this out already so it is for the benefit of others, you aren't going to "exactly copy" a male stance so much as you are going to translate a male stance to yourself. You aren't built like the "typical guy" so weight distribution and strength aren't going to be the same. What you were forced to do is understand what the purpose of the male stance (for lack of a better term) is and what it accomplishes and then figure out how to do the same thing with respect to your own firing stance.

    Given your ability to engage targets at 400 with a SBR you obviously know what you are doing.

    Also your idea as an instructor for females is great. In addition to the "intimidation" issue you raised, female students will be able to more directly emulate what you are doing without having to figure out the transitional differences between male and female shooting postures.

    I've seen a lot of male instructors make the mistake of trying to have young shooters and smaller frame shooter hold a carbine just like a "regular guy" and not understand they don't have the strength or endurance to do it exactly like them and they need to modify their shooting position to manage it. I've seen some young teens really struggle to hold their carbine level in order to hold it "just like Dad said to hold it." Simple things like adopting a slightly wider stance can usually make a lot of difference.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Sarah, good luck with your training venture, I think you are definitely on the right track.

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