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    Nobody should straight copy anyone stance. We are all built differently. I was instructing a 6'3" gent and his 5' girlfriend the other day. Neither could really mount the rifle the same way I do. I had to help them find the perfect sweet spy for them. That's my role

    Sarah, it great you want to instruct the ladies. We need more of that. We recently reviewed our records for the past three years and our student base is 65% women. We now have gals bringing their girlfriends in. And asking (demanding) for all ladies class

    Great to hear you will be joining the instructor ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shattuck View Post
    Nobody should straight copy anyone stance. We are all built differently. I was instructing a 6'3" gent and his 5' girlfriend the other day. Neither could really mount the rifle the same way I do. I had to help them find the perfect sweet spy for them. That's my role

    Sarah, it great you want to instruct the ladies. We need more of that. We recently reviewed our records for the past three years and our student base is 65% women. We now have gals bringing their girlfriends in. And asking (demanding) for all ladies class

    Great to hear you will be joining the instructor ranks.
    I agree.

    I can't stand it when an instructor is so dead set in a particular stance that they can't grasp the fact that if it doesn't work for the shooter, it doesn't matter what benefits it supposedly has, as the shooter won't realize them.
    Yes, there are certain fundamentals that need to be taught, such as using two hands to grip a handgun, vice the old 'cup and saucer' or grabbing your wrist as some old revolver shooters were taught, and some still insist on using...

    I can't shoot isosceles, as I find it very unnatural, and in all honesty, if I'm in a defensive shooting, I'm sure as hell NOT going to square up to the target, as I want to minimize the possibility of getting injured.

    I do shoot left foot forward, in a similar approach to what the young lady in the pics does. But I guess that is because I learned to shoot in the service, and only picked up pistol on my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5cary View Post
    Thank God. I was about to sell all my weapons and take up knitting.
    **** that. I was gonna get better at shooting. But knowing that she used a rest means that I can be lazy, and proficient!
    We miss you, AC.
    We miss you, ToddG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydguy View Post
    I agree.

    I can't stand it when an instructor is so dead set in a particular stance that they can't grasp the fact that if it doesn't work for the shooter, it doesn't matter what benefits it supposedly has, as the shooter won't realize them.
    Yes, there are certain fundamentals that need to be taught, such as using two hands to grip a handgun, vice the old 'cup and saucer' or grabbing your wrist as some old revolver shooters were taught, and some still insist on using...

    I can't shoot isosceles, as I find it very unnatural, and in all honesty, if I'm in a defensive shooting, I'm sure as hell NOT going to square up to the target, as I want to minimize the possibility of getting injured.

    I do shoot left foot forward, in a similar approach to what the young lady in the pics does. But I guess that is because I learned to shoot in the service, and only picked up pistol on my own.
    Something I've thought about is squaring up your torso to the target, for better coverage of body armor. But if you don't have armor and never wear it, why train like ?
    "I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Something I've thought about is squaring up your torso to the target, for better coverage of body armor. But if you don't have armor and never wear it, why train like ?
    For me, I find being a little squared up and a high, centered placement of the butt significantly helps with recoil control. especially when moving.

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    Sarah, good luck I am glad to see you are stepping up to the plate to help women get into shooting .

    far to often have women been handed a 12 ga and their dad or spouse get a chuckle when they get the crap knocked out of their shoulder.

    which was what happen to my wife when her dad thought it would be funny .now with some time she has come around and enjoys a day shooting .

    you can only help in this situation as you said some women are a little freaked out when a Macho range warrior screams at them for not doing it his way .
    Last edited by warpigM-4; 12-07-12 at 15:26.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydguy View Post
    I agree.

    I can't stand it when an instructor is so dead set in a particular stance that they can't grasp the fact that if it doesn't work for the shooter, it doesn't matter what benefits it supposedly has, as the shooter won't realize them.
    Yes, there are certain fundamentals that need to be taught, such as using two hands to grip a handgun, vice the old 'cup and saucer' or grabbing your wrist as some old revolver shooters were taught, and some still insist on using...

    I can't shoot isosceles, as I find it very unnatural, and in all honesty, if I'm in a defensive shooting, I'm sure as hell NOT going to square up to the target, as I want to minimize the possibility of getting injured.

    I do shoot left foot forward, in a similar approach to what the young lady in the pics does. But I guess that is because I learned to shoot in the service, and only picked up pistol on my own.
    I am often dismayed but the number of advanced shooters who don't get this.

    Learning is nothing more than taking a basic premise and then applying that premise to yourself in a manner that allows you to execute that premise. The idea that you distort yourself to fit a "one size fits all" concept rather than find how to make that concept work for you is simply insane.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warpigM-4 View Post
    Sarah, good luck I am glad to see you are stepping up to the plate to help women get into shooting .

    far to often have women been handed a 12 ga and their dad or spouse get a chuckle when they get the crap knocked out of their shoulder.

    you can only help in this situation as you said some women are a little freaked out when a Macho range warrior screams at them for not doing it his way .
    My ex, who got me into shooting, had me start off with larger calibers, his philosophy at the time was learn the hardest first. (40 then 45 for pistol).

    I had a wonderful instructor at the time that I learned the basics with and didn't struggle or develop bad habits with shooting larger calibers. He taught me solid marksmanship that shooting .45s was the only thing I knew. I didn't pick up a 9mm until this year after being a shooter for 9 yrs already.
    I still prefer .45 over 9mm and think that's its silly for some men(especially the ones in guns stores) to think all women can handle is a pink .22
    My 1911 TRP is my favorite, although my HK45c is known as "my beloved"

    My first rifle experience was with an LMT MWS.......again my ex's philosophy to learn the hardest first.......now admittedly that is way too heavy for me to shoot standing for more than a 30rd mag or 2, I do like shooting it bench rest or prone.

    But that was just me, I like to do hard stuff and don't get intimidated easily. I think most ladies should start off small and easy, whether it's .22 or 9mm. The key is to make their first experiences safe, fun, and full of proper instruction.
    Anyone that gives a new shooter a gun (desert eagle) or 12 ga shotgun that is going to potentially hurt them or others because they think it funny is just deplorable.
    I know I would have been way to afraid to shoot if the first time I got injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I am often dismayed but the number of advanced shooters who don't get this.

    Learning is nothing more than taking a basic premise and then applying that premise to yourself in a manner that allows you to execute that premise. The idea that you distort yourself to fit a "one size fits all" concept rather than find how to make that concept work for you is simply insane.
    A good example of that is Robert Vogel's pistol shooting method. I have small hands with long ass fingers. I cannot physically shoot that way. But I know a guy who insists that I'm shooting wrong. (I hate that guy anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.)
    Last edited by Magic_Salad0892; 12-07-12 at 20:14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah View Post
    My ex, who got me into shooting, had me start off with larger calibers, his philosophy at the time was learn the hardest first. (40 then 45 for pistol).

    I had a wonderful instructor at the time that I learned the basics with and didn't struggle or develop bad habits with shooting larger calibers. He taught me solid marksmanship that shooting .45s was the only thing I knew. I didn't pick up a 9mm until this year after being a shooter for 9 yrs already.
    I still prefer .45 over 9mm and think that's its silly for some men(especially the ones in guns stores) to think all women can handle is a pink .22
    My 1911 TRP is my favorite, although my HK45c is known as "my beloved"

    My first rifle experience was with an LMT MWS.......again my ex's philosophy to learn the hardest first.......now admittedly that is way too heavy for me to shoot standing for more than a 30rd mag or 2, I do like shooting it bench rest or prone.

    But that was just me, I like to do hard stuff and don't get intimidated easily. I think most ladies should start off small and easy, whether it's .22 or 9mm. The key is to make their first experiences safe, fun, and full of proper instruction.
    Anyone that gives a new shooter a gun (desert eagle) or 12 ga shotgun that is going to potentially hurt them or others because they think it funny is just deplorable.
    I know I would have been way to afraid to shoot if the first time I got injured.
    Sarah, I applaud you. I was brought up in the culture, but I guess I am sick. I LOVE recoil. Probably more than the d bags pushing mantra on you.

    But not everyone does. Work into your feel for the weapon. Try to not form bad habits. If you have been shooting this long, you already know what works for you. Take it and run with it. Don't shut out good advise or training. Love what you do and keep it up. You training women would be a boon to all shooters.

    Great choice in weapons and cute to boot... If I was only younger!

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