Vickers and Daniel Defense finished?

[GeorgiaBoy]

I don't think we need another Pincus-hate thread.

It was discussed heavily here:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=117399

[AKDoug]

^this. A severe marketing error on DD's part.

[Rodman24]

I usually stay out of this crap, but for heaven's sake DD is better off without any spokesperson than they are with this Pincus fellow. This is coming from a DD customer and fan.

Amen.

Too bad they couldn't have him shooting while hanging upside down.

[Jaysop]

Interesting choice by DD.

[NoveskeFan]

For those who haven't seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfjdriMS1w

Pure speculation, but I wonder if maybe LAV saw the writing on the wall?

[ReaperAZ]

No matter your opinion on the subject matter, that video would be 100x better with the 6 million dollar man sound effect during the slow motion segments, particularly the cinder block and hay bale parts.

I had zero plans to post in this thread....right up until I read that. I almost choked on my Guinness and that would have been a tragedy all in itself. All I can picture now is that sound when he jumps over the bales. Thank you for the laugh sir.

[Bmoe]

I usually stay out of this crap, but for heaven's sake DD is better off without any spokesperson than they are with this Pincus fellow. This is coming from a DD customer and fan.

I agree with you completely. DD has always been on my want list because of their quality but geez that video with the cinder block and hay bales was a little out there.

[Jaysop]

Pure speculation, but I wonder if maybe LAV saw the writing on the wall?

I'm not tracking.
Did DD plan to drop him or something?

[zenghost]

I should add I have never trained with Pincus. I am really in no positon to assail his methods or question the value of his training etc. I simply don't know about that, so I'll leave that to others who have experience in that regard. Unfortunately, the video does not lend an air of credibility to Pincus who is a relative unknown for me.

I have trained with Mr. Vickers on two separate occasions and can unequivocally state it was money well spent. My experiences aside, Mr. Vickers' reputation is well established.

[NoveskeFan]

I'm not tracking.
Did DD plan to drop him or something?

I was speculating on if LAV knew that DD was going to add Pincus as a spokesman, and thus started to distance himself from DD. Like I said, pure speculation. For all I know, Vickers is still affiliated and hangs out with Pincus.