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    Obama doesn't even know that Egypt is or at least was an ally. He did not know that the US Government does not recognize a country called Myanmar preferring the name Burma. His wife didn't know not to hug Queen Elizabeth. These people have no idea what is happening in the bureaucracy.

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    Wish they had the new people working already. I am waiting on a few items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim View Post
    Obama doesn't even know that Egypt is or at least was an ally. He did not know that the US Government does not recognize a country called Myanmar preferring the name Burma. His wife didn't know not to hug Queen Elizabeth. These people have no idea what is happening in the bureaucracy.
    I think it's easier to list the things O does know: Dog is edible, conservatives are all racist, and a gram is running about $120 on his favorite corner...

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    I won't read into it, but I have heard the same rumors you are talking about and it scares me. If "assault weapons" were to be classified as NFA items as some have suggested it would probably stand a legal challenge and the price of shit would skyrocket.

    The government would also rake in shitloads of cash, but not enough to save us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb Jensen View Post
    I don't get the warm and fuzzies from this either. Why would O care about how long NFA approvals take? He can't even pass a budget but he puts the NFA Branch as a priority? I think F&F was a program to make so-called "assault weapons" look bad but it went south after Agent Terry was killed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydguy View Post
    I think it's easier to list the things O does know: Dog is edible, conservatives are all racist, and a gram is running about $120 on his favorite corner...
    The President knows a hell of a lot more than you give him credit for. The trouble is, most of what he knows is wrong.

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    Interesting development. I could see the GOP, who is under significant fire from liberals (and some conservatives) for being "out of touch", going along with some form of assault weapon curtailment as they try to find their way in an increasingly liberal political landscape. There are presidential elections in just 4 years. That's a short time frame for them to reinvent themselves. The key question in my mind is whether or not such a new ban would have any kind of grandfather clause, or if all of a sudden my ARs will just be illegal to possess.

    Anyway, bearing in mind that the last AWB didn't affect NFA weapons and considering that, for some reason, the number of NFA examiners is supposedly being expanded, I just send in a Form 1 for a receiver I have sitting around. I registered it as an 11.5. I may not actually put a short barrel on it, but I don't see much downside to having it on the NFA registry. While I was at it, I had the Sheriff's office print up a couple of extra fingerprint cards. I might register one of my other non-SBR rifles too.
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    The interesting thing, to me, is that if all ARs become title II/NFA weapons, I would think the market for 16" rifles would disappear. No sense NOT going with an SBR at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeardsong View Post
    The interesting thing, to me, is that if all ARs become title II/NFA weapons, I would think the market for 16" rifles would disappear. No sense NOT going with an SBR at that point.
    Except for performance issues.....a 16 inch barrel has about 400 fps over an 11.5 and gas systems can be a little finicky.

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    Even if Obama is behind this to some extent we all know he will not negotiate, just look at what's going on with taxes....

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    The interesting thing, to me, is that if all ARs become title II/NFA weapons, I would think the market for 16" rifles would disappear. No sense NOT going with an SBR at that point.
    Wouldn't this make it a 2 stamp firearm though? My understanding of the original ban was that you could SBR one of the neutered ARs but still could not then add on "evil" features just because it had a tax stamp.

    Or, would this be similar to the full auto versus SBR thing where a full auto takes precedence over SBR so barrel length doesn't matter?

    I'm thinking ATF wouldn't let SBR overrule "evil assault rifle" unless the associated legal text specifically laid it out that way. Similar to that AAC Honeybadger prototype that was a machine gun but also had some kind of suppressor-related expansion chamber on it that required a second stamp.

    My head hurts now.

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